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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks very much for sending on this feedback Maureen and Sarah.  This is most helpful.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Julie<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 4:11 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund@icann.org><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"gnso-ggp-wg@icann.org" <gnso-ggp-wg@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Ext] Re: [GNSO-GGP-WG] REMINDER re: HOMEWORK re: |GGP WG-Applicant Support Mtg #4 - 09 January 2023 20:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi everyone <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The At-Large CPWG invited the ALAC GGP team to update them about our progress at their meeting on Weds. In return they provided us with some interesting feedback. Chantelle Doerksen very kindly transcribed some of the conversations as well as
 a  summary. I hope you find it useful - from the end-user perspective.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Maureen and Sarah <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 4:05 AM Julie Hedlund <<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org">julie.hedlund@icann.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Dear all,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">As a reminder, please see the homework below from our meeting on Monday, 09 January 2023 at 20:00 UTC.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Steve and Julie<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">GNSO-GGP-WG <<a href="mailto:gnso-ggp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-ggp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Julie Hedlund <<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org" target="_blank">julie.hedlund@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, January 9, 2023 at 4:55 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-ggp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-ggp-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-ggp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-ggp-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[GNSO-GGP-WG] HOMEWORK re: |GGP WG-Applicant Support Mtg #4 - 09 January 2023 20:00 UTC</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Dear all,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Per the action items below, please see the following homework from meeting #4 on Monday, 09 January 2023:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><u><span style="color:black">TASKS 3, 4, and 5</span></u><span style="color:black">:</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>1.  Tom Barrett to suggest on the list the lifecycle elements of the application process.  WG members and staff to provide comments.</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>2.  WG members to review the Google worksheet at:
<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13Q9QRDOBC0mdPBRDWxfMsUPtt4d-gVI9w8pBCkfugQc/edit?usp=sharing__;!!PtGJab4!4_fk7QeEveU75kKZ9ROe22ACSuIAU4ywPv3bacd3lNNp_Seb1o5xAJ65CuAdKNjmuHks9-SCf7DjQ6hfIsPBhWjt3mN0Aw$" target="_blank">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>3.  Staff to draft a sample survey.</b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Steve and Julie<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">GNSO-GGP-WG <<a href="mailto:gnso-ggp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-ggp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Julie Hedlund <<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org" target="_blank">julie.hedlund@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, January 9, 2023 at 4:53 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-ggp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-ggp-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-ggp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-ggp-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[GNSO-GGP-WG] Actions & Notes |GGP WG-Applicant Support Mtg #4 - 09 January 2023 20:00 UTC</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:black">Dear Working Group members,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="color:black">Please see below the action items and brief notes for today’s GGP WG meeting.  These also are posted on the wiki at:<span class="m3072388903293430545apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://community.icann.org/display/GGPGIRFAS/2022+Meetings" target="_blank" title="https://community.icann.org/display/GGPGIRFAS/2022+Meetings">https://community.icann.org/display/GGPGIRFAS/2022+Meetings</a>.
 Please note that these are not a substitute for the recordings also posted to the wiki.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="color:black">The next meeting will be in<span class="m3072388903293430545apple-converted-space"> </span></span><b><i>two<span style="color:black"> weeks</span></i></b><span class="m3072388903293430545apple-converted-space"><span style="color:black"> </span></span><span style="color:black">on<span class="m3072388903293430545apple-converted-space"> </span><b>Monday,
</b></span><b>23 January<span style="color:black"> at </span><i>1500<span style="color:black"> UTC</span> (alternating time)</i></b><span style="color:black">.<span class="m3072388903293430545apple-converted-space"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="color:black">Kind regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="color:black">Steve and Julie</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="color:black">ACTION ITEMS/HOMEWORK:</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>1.  Tom Barrett to suggest on the list the lifecycle elements of the application process.  WG members and staff to provide comments.</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>2.  WG members to review the Google worksheet at:
<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13Q9QRDOBC0mdPBRDWxfMsUPtt4d-gVI9w8pBCkfugQc/edit?usp=sharing__;!!PtGJab4!4_fk7QeEveU75kKZ9ROe22ACSuIAU4ywPv3bacd3lNNp_Seb1o5xAJ65CuAdKNjmuHks9-SCf7DjQ6hfIsPBhWjt3mN0Aw$" target="_blank">
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13Q9QRDOBC0mdPBRDWxfMsUPtt4d-gVI9w8pBCkfugQc/edit?usp=sharing [docs.google.com]</a> for format and provide comments.</b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="color:black">Draft Agenda</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="color:black">GGP WG-Applicant Support Meeting #</span>4</b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="color:black">Monday, </span>09 January 2023 at 20:00<span style="color:black"> UTC</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="color:black">1. Welcome & Updates to Statements of Interest (5 min.)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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No updates to SOIs.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">2. Begin Discussion of Task 3 (55 min.) – see attached documents and Google sheet at: <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13Q9QRDOBC0mdPBRDWxfMsUPtt4d-gVI9w8pBCkfugQc/edit?usp=sharing__;!!PtGJab4!4_fk7QeEveU75kKZ9ROe22ACSuIAU4ywPv3bacd3lNNp_Seb1o5xAJ65CuAdKNjmuHks9-SCf7DjQ6hfIsPBhWjt3mN0Aw$" target="_blank" title="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13Q9QRDOBC0mdPBRDWxfMsUPtt4d-gVI9w8pBCkfugQc/edit?usp=sharing__;!!PtGJab4!4_fk7QeEveU75kKZ9ROe22ACSuIAU4ywPv3bacd3lNNp_Seb1o5xAJ65CuAdKNjmuHks9-SCf7DjQ6hfIsPBhWjt3mN0Aw$">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13Q9QRDOBC0mdPBRDWxfMsUPtt4d-gVI9w8pBCkfugQc/edit?usp=sharing
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Review of Tasks (15 min.)<o:p></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2">
Review of Draft Discussion Framework (20 min.)<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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What about phases of outreach – such as business model development: Awareness and education is the first step, then we have business case development (filling out the application), application evaluation, production/operations.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="m3072388903293430545msolistparagraph" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3">
Could keep using the worksheet to agree on the form and then use the survey to get input.  Could agree on drop down boxes for who collects the data and measurement.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="m3072388903293430545msolistparagraph" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3">
If we look at the applicability of these metrics to the criteria for applicant support - public interest , financial sustainability (which is why I support Tom's suggestion regarding outreach and education and supporting their understanding of the business
 model for registries) and financial affordability for the application.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="m3072388903293430545msolistparagraph" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3">
My recollection from SubPro is that trademarks usually register at a number of TLDs in a defensive manner, so expunging that would make for a better appraisal of a TLD success.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="m3072388903293430545msolistparagraph" style="mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3">
Some points from staff: <o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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Not all of the metrics are signs of success or failure of the program.  May or may not tell a story – could just be data points useful to collect.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="m3072388903293430545msolistparagraph" style="mso-list:l0 level2 lfo3">
SubPro PDP WG recognize that you could design the perfect program with respect to awareness, funding opportunities and structure, but owning TLDs may not be important to some companies at this point in their business lifecyle.  This is why there are only a
 couple of data points relating to the launch of new gLTDs, the recognition that even if everything is set up perfectly you may not get many applications.<o:p></o:p></li><li class="m3072388903293430545msolistparagraph" style="mso-list:l0 level2 lfo3">
Staff will share on email some comments about the lifecyle suggestions.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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Make sure we get this right.  We are not under time pressure so we can get it right.  Please engage with the form as it is and provide comments.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>ACTION ITEM: WG members to review the Google worksheet at:
<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13Q9QRDOBC0mdPBRDWxfMsUPtt4d-gVI9w8pBCkfugQc/edit?usp=sharing__;!!PtGJab4!4_fk7QeEveU75kKZ9ROe22ACSuIAU4ywPv3bacd3lNNp_Seb1o5xAJ65CuAdKNjmuHks9-SCf7DjQ6hfIsPBhWjt3mN0Aw$" target="_blank">
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13Q9QRDOBC0mdPBRDWxfMsUPtt4d-gVI9w8pBCkfugQc/edit?usp=sharing [docs.google.com]</a> for format and provide comments.</b><o:p></o:p></p>
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