<div dir="ltr">My apologies that I will not be in the room for the IRT meeting, but will be in the zoom room in case there are any references to the work of the GGP.<div><br></div><div>M</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 10:45 AM Leon Grundmann <<a href="mailto:leon.grundmann@icann.org">leon.grundmann@icann.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-3046205185324740093">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Dear Working Group Members,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">As you may remember, there were some questions for ICANN org around which (developing) regions and countries might have a high demand for pro bono services, or which might have a high
supply of pro bono service providers. We do plan to present on this topic at the SubPro Implementation Review Team (IRT) session at ICANN78 in Hamburg on Thursday 26 October at 09:00-10:00 CEST (07:00-08:00 UTC). See the session link here:
<a href="https://icann78.sched.com/event/1T4Kf/gds-subsequent-procedures-irt-3-of-3" target="_blank">
https://icann78.sched.com/event/1T4Kf/gds-subsequent-procedures-irt-3-of-3</a> (there, you will also find the agenda [<a href="https://community.icann.org/x/OwDCDw" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/x/OwDCDw</a>] with further information and access to the slide deck).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">As promised, I have taken the other questions forward to the team and will return to those at our next meeting on the 30 October.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Looking forward to hopefully having you attend the SubPro IRT ICANN78 session on Applicant Support!
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Best regards and thank you Julie and Steve for keeping this process moving along,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Leon Grundmann (ICANN org GDS Liaison to the GGP on Applicant Support)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">P.S. - As a side note: we have reopened our survey for
<a href="https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-seeks-pro-bono-service-providers-for-applicant-support-program-01-06-2023-en" target="_blank">
Expressions of Interest from potential pro bono service providers</a> for the Applicant Support Program (it closed on 31 August, but is now reopened) – if you or anybody you know would be suitable for this, please do not hesitate to participate in the survey
or to share it with someone who can (if applicable).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt;color:black">GNSO-GGP-WG <<a href="mailto:gnso-ggp-wg-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-ggp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Julie Hedlund <<a href="mailto:julie.hedlund@icann.org" target="_blank">julie.hedlund@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, 16 October 2023 at 19:10<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-ggp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-ggp-wg@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-ggp-wg@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-ggp-wg@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[GNSO-GGP-WG] Action Items & Notes | GGP Applicant Support WG Meeting #22 on 16 Oct at 15:00 UTC<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">Dear Working Group members,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">Please see below the </span><span lang="EN-US">action items and notes
<span style="color:black">for the GGP WG Applicant Support meeting on Monday, 16 October at 15:00 UTC.<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Kind regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Steve & Julie<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">Action Items:<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">Rec 1 -- Add GGP Team Response (suggested text): “"Target potential applicants from the not-for-profit sector, social enterprises and/or community organizations from under-served and developing regions and countries.
This should not exclude any entities from outreach efforts, such as private sector entities [from developing/underrepresented regions], recognizing the goal is to get as many qualifying applicants as possible."
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">Rec 2 -- ICANN org to formulate a response with respect to potential concerns, as well as applicants’ pro-bono needs, and bring it back to the WG to consider.<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt">Rec 5 -- ICANN org to provide guidance on the feasibility of providing the data suggested by Com Laude (comparing rates of delegation).<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">Notes:<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">1. <span style="color:black">Welcome and SOIs<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">2. <span style="color:black">Public comment review for Guidance Recommendations 2-9:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">Rec 1:<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
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<li class="m_-3046205185324740093MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">Staff: Summary of previous discussion -- Broad agreement to accept the suggestion from Com Laude with Tom’s suggestion to include “private-sector entities” in the list of entities
that should not be excluded. 11:05<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="m_-3046205185324740093MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">See the text that Tom had suggested.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="m_-3046205185324740093MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">Don’t think this is aligned with what we are trying to do.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="m_-3046205185324740093MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">Share that concern.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="m_-3046205185324740093MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">Do we need to provide a response to the commenters?<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="m_-3046205185324740093MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">Staff: We usually just capture the high-level response and put summary text into column D.<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">ACTION ITEM: Rec 1 -- Add GGP Team Response (suggested text): “"Target potential applicants from the not-for-profit sector, social enterprises and/or community organizations from under-served and developing regions
and countries. This should not exclude any entities from outreach efforts, such as private sector entities [from developing/underrepresented regions], recognizing the goal is to get as many qualifying applicants as possible."
<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">Rec 2:<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
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<li class="m_-3046205185324740093MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">Summary: 8 responders support without wording changes.
</span><span lang="FR">BC comments don’t suggest changes. </span><span lang="EN-US">NCUC suggests responding to 17.2, but this WG has consistently agreed that this is out of scope. NCSG comment had a question about whether the last part of the recommendation
is an indicator of success, but the structure of the recommendation is consistent – that it states the goal and the indicator of success is captured separately.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="m_-3046205185324740093MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">NCSG comment is more about clarification.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="m_-3046205185324740093MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">GGP will add a response is column D.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="m_-3046205185324740093MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">GAC comment – Support with Wording Change: Would like to add a few other elements.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="m_-3046205185324740093MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">GAC: It would be helpful to clarify that ICANN has a role to facilitate, more proactivity.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="m_-3046205185324740093MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">The word “recruit” should be okay, but could be problematic to including mentoring programs – is there a compromise of ICANN’s neutrality? We discussed not putting ICANN in the
middle of pro-bono support.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="m_-3046205185324740093MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">GAC: Could we support removing “and mentoring programs”?<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="m_-3046205185324740093MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">The key issue is the reference to vetting and suggestion to put ICANN in the middle.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="m_-3046205185324740093MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">Since this has been done with registrars in the past there could be a way to avoid risk.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="m_-3046205185324740093MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">Not expecting for ICANN to take an active role in vetting.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="m_-3046205185324740093MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">Don’t think we can compare with collaboration with registrars. Not sure ICANN can do more than just listing service providers – not vetting in particular.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="m_-3046205185324740093MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">Concern about how ICANN communicates with the applicants about its role. Want to make sure that the pro-bono services meet the needs of applicants.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="m_-3046205185324740093MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">There is value in that – question to ICANN org: how do we find out what applicants need?<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="m_-3046205185324740093MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">Staff: Think the IRT would have a pretty good sense of what the applicants need. ICANN or could address that.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="m_-3046205185324740093MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">Add language that the ASP has identified the areas where applicants need assistance, but hear from ICANN org first.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="m_-3046205185324740093MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">Outreach in Rec 1 would also help.<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">ACTION ITEM: Rec 2 -- ICANN org to formulate a response with respect to potential concerns, as well as applicants’ pro-bono needs, and bring it back to the WG to consider.<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">Rec 3:<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
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<li class="m_-3046205185324740093MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">GAC comment/wording change: Clarify what is meant by “resources”.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="m_-3046205185324740093MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">Suggestion: This one is talking about the “how”. Could add into implementation Guidance.<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">Rec 4:<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="m_-3046205185324740093MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">Summary: All 8 respondents support recommendation as written.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="m_-3046205185324740093MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">Could add Implementation Guidance to address multiple language support and timeliness.<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">Rec 5:<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
<ul type="disc">
<li class="m_-3046205185324740093MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">Com Laude comments suggest adding nuance to the recommendation – a deeper analysis of supported applications versus non supported.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="m_-3046205185324740093MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">Gets complicated; might raise more questions. How to add this and how it could be used.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="m_-3046205185324740093MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">This recommendation might be misunderstood – we looked at it as a superficial measure. This seems to be an additional recommendation.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="m_-3046205185324740093MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">Maybe providing additional information to the community on success of supported applications. ICANN org could have different ways of measuring. It is a nice to have, but would
require additional expenses; there might already be a mechanism to capture this.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="m_-3046205185324740093MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">Would be helpful to get feedback on from ICANN org. Could be Implementation Guidance.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="m_-3046205185324740093MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">Suggestion of the comment that looking only at delegation rates is insufficient. One way to add this is to capture these types of metrics without being
</span><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt"><u></u><u></u></span></b></li></ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12pt">ACTION ITEM: Rec 5 -- ICANN org to provide guidance on the feasibility of providing the data suggested by Com Laude (comparing rates of delegation).<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">3. AOB: Next Steps<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<li class="m_-3046205185324740093MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">No call at ICANN78.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="m_-3046205185324740093MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">Meeting on 30 Oct.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="m_-3046205185324740093MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">Get through these comments as quickly as possible.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="m_-3046205185324740093MsoListParagraph"><span lang="EN-US">Deliver the report in Dec or before.<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
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