[Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] MP3 IGO WG - Wednesday, 19 November 2014 at 1700 UTC

Wed Nov 19 19:28:38 UTC 2014

Dear All,

Please note that there will be NO meeting next week, the WG will resume meetings on the 3rd December 2014. 

Please find the MP3 recording for IGO-INGO Access to Curative Rights Protection Mechanisms Working Group call on Wednesday, 19 November 2014  at 1700 UTC at:

http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-igo-ingo-crp-access-20141119-en.mp3

 On page: 

 <http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#nov> http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#nov

The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page:

 <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/> http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/

Attendees: 

George Kirikos - Individual

Jim Bikoff – IPC

Petter Rindforth – IPC

Val Sherman – IPC

Phil Corwin – BC

Mason Cole – RySG

Gary Campbell – GAC

David Healsley - IPC 

Kristine Dorrain- Individual

Paul Tattersfield – Individual

David Maher – RySG

Paul Keating – NCUC

Imran Ahmed Shah – NCUC

Kathy Kleiman - NCUC

Apologies:

Osvaldo Novoa – ISPCP

Lori Schulman – NPOC

ICANN staff:

Mary Wong

Berry Cobb

Amy Bivins

Terri Agnew

Nathalie Peregrine

** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **

Mailing list archives:  <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-igo-ingo-crp/> http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-igo-ingo-crp/ 

Wiki page:

 <https://community.icann.org/x/97rhAg> https://community.icann.org/x/97rhAg  

Thank you.

Kind regards,

Nathalie

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 Adobe Connect chat transcript for Wednesday, 19 November 2014:

  Nathalie  Peregrine:Dear all, welcome to the  IGO-INGO Curative Rights Protection PDP WG Meeting on the 19th November 2014

  George Kirikos:Hi everyone.

  Paul Tattersfield:Hi George, everyone

  Gary Campbell:Hi everyone

  George Kirikos:Hi Paul & Gary. How are you today?

  Gary Campbell:I am great George

  George Kirikos:Glad to hear it, Gary.

  Paul Tattersfield:Good George, thanks you? Is it cold yet in Canada?

  George Kirikos:It's freeezzzzinnnnggggg. Brrrrr. We have had snow here for the last couple of days.

  George Kirikos:Not as bad as Buffalo, NY, though.

  Val Sherman:David Heasley is also on the line

  Paul Keating:Today's weather in Barcelona is mostely dark but scattered britghtness is expected in about 12 hours :-)

  George Kirikos:I think Gary has us all beat -- in Jamaica! :-)

  Gary Campbell:lol @ George

  Nathalie  Peregrine:@ Val, David has been noted for attendance.

  Kristine Dorrain-NAF:Pre-apologies:  I'm going to need to leave the call in 1/2 hour.

  Imran Ahmed Shah:Hi Everyone!

  George Kirikos:Welcome, Imran.

  Imran Ahmed Shah:But I think the GAC representative is to be assigned by the GAC itself.

  Mason Cole:Correct, Mary 

  Imran Ahmed Shah:Okay, Thanks Marry

  Gary Campbell:IMran is correct

  Mary Wong:@Gary, please feel free to let Mason and us know if you have advice on how we can best proceed.

  Gary Campbell:@Mary and will do

  Gary Campbell:You need to write Thomas Schneider the GAC Chair and ask for GAC representation 

  George Kirikos:On a formatting note, the questions should perhaps be set apart separately (and maybe be numbered), instead of just being in bold within the text of a letter.

  Mason Cole:all, i need to sign off the call.  i will follow up with any action items beyond the communication to the GAC

  George Kirikos:e..g. Q1 "What is....", Q2. "What would be the basis, etc.

  George Kirikos:Usually the immunity is to defend a suit. But, the UDRP/URS is an "initiating" action, where the IGO is bringing the dispute. That's really an express waiver, when used as a "sword".

  Mary Wong:@George, yes, my understanding is that this is a point the IGOs are concerned about on this issue.

  George Kirikos:But, since the IGOs face the same issues when enforcing their Article 6ter marks offline, the question then becomes "what's different in the online world?"

  Imran Ahmed Shah:+ 1 George.

  Imran Ahmed Shah:I also agree that specific questions should be asked. And I suggest that we ask them to elaborate their requirements and concern specifically:do they like to reserve:a.        the full name string and similarity strings of the domain name related to IGOb. the abbreviations of the full name string and similarity string of the domain name related to IGO

  Mary Wong:@Imran, I'm afraid that the issue of reserving namse is outside the scope of this WG. That was dealt with by the previous IGO WG.

  Imran Ahmed Shah:a. the full name string and similarity strings of the domain name related to IGO

  Imran Ahmed Shah:b. the abbreviations of the full name string and similarity string of the domain name related to IGO

  Imran Ahmed Shah:c. or anything in the string they could claim as a similar string 

  George Kirikos:Maybe January 6?

  Val Sherman:+ Kathy

  George Kirikos:So we have the input before the January 7th call?

  George Kirikos:(if we have one on Jan 7)

  George Kirikos:Although, perhaps that won't work, looking at the calendar (Jan 1 = Thursday)

  Paul Keating:9th is fine

  Imran Ahmed Shah:I also agree for 9

  George Kirikos:9th is ok.

  Philip Corwin:ok on January 9

  Kathy Kleiman:9th gives everyone a week to finalize...

  Kathy Kleiman:that's good!

  Kathy Kleiman:great, reminders are good

  Paul Keating:@Peter, how extensive is this problem?  How many IGOs have complained?

  Kathy Kleiman:@Paul - I have the same question

  Paul Keating:so we may be solving a problem that is NOT a preoblem?

  George Kirikos:Paul: No, we're asked to investigate *whether* there should be something done.

  George Kirikos:i.e. No solution, if we decide there's no real problem.

  Imran Ahmed Shah:@Mary I could not understand your reply to my points, my points were related to PDP process for UDRP for the IGOs. 

  Kristine Dorrain-NAF:Thanks everyone, I need to run.  Talk to you later.

  Paul Keating:@tyhank you.  I am sorry but I have to go to a meeting.

  Mary Wong:@Imran, sorry if I mistook your meaning. I think that is one of the questions our WG is posing to the IGO small group in that case.

  Imran Ahmed Shah:in order to understand their concern perticularly, we have to dig further

  Kathy Kleiman:Agree with Phil

  Mary Wong:Thanks for the guidance!

  George Kirikos:With the time difference, 9 am in Singapore on Friday appears to be around 8 pm Eastern time on Thursday, for those planning to participate remotely.

  Imran Ahmed Shah:@Marry should our WG members will be supported for F2F meeting?

  Val Sherman:Thanks, George! 

  Imran Ahmed Shah:@Mary what about the Travel Support? 

  Kathy Kleiman:David Cake and Kathy Kleiman will be participating for NCSG

  George Kirikos:Will any of those in the IGO subgroup be at the Singapore F2F?

  George Kirikos:(since some of them go to the ICANN meetings; if their hotel stay can be extended by a day, it might be valuable)

  Mary Wong:@Imran, I believe that travel support is allocated via your Stakeholder Group or Constituency.

  Val Sherman:That sounds like a good idea, Mary

  George Kirikos:We'll want to make sure that our public session doesn't conflict with other sessions that IGOs might be planning to attend.

  Mary Wong:@George, yep, that's always the challenge :(

  Imran Ahmed Shah:@Mary Thanks 

  George Kirikos:Bye everyone. Have a great day!

  Kathy Kleiman:Tx you, Petter, and All!

  Philip Corwin:Bye--and have a good Thanksgiving if you are in the USA

  Imran Ahmed Shah:Thanks

  Paul Tattersfield:thanks bye everyonr

  Val Sherman:Thanks all!

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