[Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Agenda and documents for next WG call on Wednesday 10 June

[Paul Keating]

I agree with George on these which is why my suggested revisions removed
these proposed questions.

PRK

On 6/10/15 2:09 PM, "George Kirikos" <icann at leap.com> wrote:

>For point/question #3, in particular:
>
>"What if the Mutual Jurisdiction requirement specified that, to apply
>to IGOs, it has to be a jurisdiction of one of its member states?"
>
>I don't see how this could ever be acceptable to registrants. For
>example, for a North American registrant using a North American
>registrar, an IGO consisting of member states from Iran, Iraq, Syria
>and Turkey might place the "mutual jurisdiction" in one of those 4
>countries that have absolutely nothing to do with the registrant,
>rather than in North America.
>
>The same would apply to the rest of point #3, i.e. allowing the IGO to
>"forum shop" by selecting a jurisdiction of a member state. For a
>court to even have jurisdiction over a registrant, there must be some
>connection to the underlying dispute and parties. That has normally
>been (a) location of registrant, (b) location of registrar, or (c)
>location of registry operator.
>
>I know these are just 'exploratory' questions, but I don't see why any
>legitimacy should be attached to ad hoc proposals like the above by
>submitting them to 'experts' in the first place. This should be about
>fact-finding, not an informal 'negotiation' with IGOs.
>Conclusions/solutions should flow from the facts. Putting out possible
>'solutions' first, and then trying to come up with some 'rationale' to
>justify them later is the wrong way to do things, in my opinion.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>George Kirikos
>416-588-0269
>http://www.leap.com/
>
>
>On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org> wrote:
>> Dear WG members,
>>
>> The proposed agenda for our next meeting, scheduled for Wednesday 10
>>June,
>> is as follows:
>>
>> Roll call/updates to SOI
>> Discuss and finalize questions for independent legal expert (see
>>attached
>> for draft document from the WG co-chairs)
>> Planning for WG meeting in Buenos Aires/next steps
>>
>>
>> It may be that we will not need the full hour; however, Petter and Phil
>> would like the group to have this call prior to the open meeting we are
>> scheduled to have in Buenos Aires, on Wednesday 24 June at 10.00 a.m.
>>ART
>> (local time). For those WG members who will not be present in Buenos
>>Aires,
>> the usual remote participation facilities will be available, and we¹ll
>>send
>> call-in and other details prior to the date.
>>
>> Thanks and cheers
>> Mary
>>
>> Mary Wong
>> Senior Policy Director
>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)
>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4889
>> Email: mary.wong at icann.org
>>
>>
>>
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