[Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Synopsis from Prof. Edward Swaine - WG call this week?
Phil Corwin
psc at vlaw-dc.com
Tue Mar 1 18:29:38 UTC 2016
No, fine with holding it.
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From: Paul at law.es ZIMBRA [mailto:paul at law.es]
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 1:24 PM
To: Phil Corwin
Cc: George Kirikos; Mary Wong; gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org
Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Synopsis from Prof. Edward Swaine - WG call this week?
Yes, I was aware of that. I thought you should cancel if you felt it was appropriate.
Paul Keating
On 01 Mar 2016, at 6:53 PM, Phil Corwin <psc at vlaw-dc.com<mailto:psc at vlaw-dc.com>> wrote:
Paul:
Since I sent that we have scheduled a call tomorrow. You should have received an invitation.
Best, Philip
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From: Paul at law.es<mailto:Paul at law.es> ZIMBRA [mailto:paul at law.es]
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 12:48 PM
To: Phil Corwin
Cc: George Kirikos; Mary Wong; gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org<mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org>
Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Synopsis from Prof. Edward Swaine - WG call this week?
Phil,
Up to you. I had seen 3 but that is not enough. Perhaps a refer to the group again? It has been awhile since last held a call so they may not be looking.
Paul Keating
On 01 Mar 2016, at 4:20 PM, Phil Corwin <psc at vlaw-dc.com<mailto:psc at vlaw-dc.com>> wrote:
Paul:
We are in no way trying to suppress discussion, but as of yesterday we had not seen anyone indicate that we should hold a call tomorrow other than you. Both staff and the Co-Chairs are very busy this week preparing to fly to Marrakech (I depart on Thursday).
Now George indicates that he can be on a call tomorrow, but is indifferent to whether it is held, and thinks it needs minimum participation of 7-8 WG members to be worthwhile.
If there are other WG members who believe it would be useful to hold a call tomorrow and are available to participate at 1700 UTC, can they please indicate that at once?
Best, Philip
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-----Original Message-----
From: George Kirikos [mailto:icann at leap.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 10:00 AM
To: Paul Keating
Cc: Mary Wong; Phil Corwin; gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org<mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org>
Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Synopsis from Prof. Edward Swaine - WG call this week?
I can make it tomorrow at the usual time, but I'm indifferent as to it being tomorrow or next week (we'd probably want at least 7 or 8 participants if we're going to have it tomorrow).
Sincerely,
George Kirikos
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On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Paul Keating <paul at law.es<mailto:paul at law.es>> wrote:
> Mary. I saw 3 including me.
>
> Sincerely,
> Paul Keating, Esq.
>
> On Mar 1, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org<mailto:mary.wong at icann.org>> wrote:
>
> Dear all, as of now we have only received indication from one working
> group member of a wish to have a WG call tomorrow ahead of the Marrakech meeting.
> If you think it would be preferable to schedule a call tomorrow as
> well, please reply as soon as possible so that we can make the
> necessary arrangements and let everyone know.
>
> Thanks and cheers
> Mary
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 29, 2016, at 13:04, Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org<mailto:mary.wong at icann.org>> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> Please find attached the synopsis document from Professor Swaine that
> Phil referred to in his email update to our Working Group (below). As
> Phil mentioned, his and Petter’s plan is to use this as the basis for
> discussion during the WG meeting at ICANN55, which is currently
> scheduled for Wednesday
> 9 March.
>
> However, should you wish to hold a brief discussion this Wednesday (at
> our usual meeting time of 1700 UTC) to provide initial feedback on the
> attached synopsis as a preparatory step to the fuller discussion next
> week, please reply to this email accordingly. If a sufficient number
> of members indicate that they would like to meet this week as well, we
> will go ahead and schedule a call accordingly.
>
> Thanks and cheers
> Mary
>
>
> Mary Wong
> Senior Policy Director
> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
> Email: mary.wong at icann.org<mailto:mary.wong at icann.org>
> Telephone: +1-603-5744889
>
>
> From: <gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of Phil Corwin
> <psc at vlaw-dc.com<mailto:psc at vlaw-dc.com>>
> Date: Saturday, February 20, 2016 at 12:20
> To: George Kirikos <icann at leap.com<mailto:icann at leap.com>>
> Cc: "gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org<mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org>" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org<mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org>>
> Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Any update on Swaine report?
>
> Dear IGO CRP WG Members:
>
>
>
> Here is a further update on the situation as regards Prof. Swaine’s
> legal research.
>
>
>
> Petter and I, along with Mary and Steve, engaged in a one hour call
> yesterday with Prof. Swaine in which we discussed our questions and
> comments regarding the current uncompleted draft report, as well as
> the needs of the WG in preparation for Marrakech.
>
>
>
> Prof. Swaine is not comfortable with having an incomplete document
> bearing his name in wider circulation, and we fully appreciate that
> viewpoint. In addition, due to his academic responsibilities for the
> remainder of this month, he does not believe he will be able to
> complete a final draft prior to a potential 3/2 WG call or our F2F
> meeting in Marrakech (which is currently scheduled to take place from 9-10:15 am on Wednesday, March 9).
>
>
>
> However, he did commit to provide our WG with a synopsis of his
> research to date in the next week to ten days, which will provide us a
> focus for an anticipated WG planning call on 3/2. The same document
> can be used to catalyze discussion in Marrakech – and we plan to make
> sure that GAC and IGO attendees are made aware that they are welcome
> to participate in our 3/9 session. We will then provide Prof. Swaine
> with feedback from those two sessions to help guide him in his
> completion of the report, which we now anticipate receiving in final form later in March.
>
>
>
> While we had all hoped to have a final report available prior to our
> Marrakech meeting, the agreed upon approach seems like the second best
> option and will at least provide us with a basis for discussion over
> the next few weeks.
>
>
>
> Please let us know if you have questions or comments.
>
>
>
> Best to all,
>
> Philip
>
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> Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal
>
> Virtualaw LLC
>
> 1155 F Street, NW
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> Suite 1050
>
> Washington, DC 20004
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>
> "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey
>
>
>
> From: Phil Corwin
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 10:13 AM
> To: 'George Kirikos'
> Cc: gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org<mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org>
> Subject: RE: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Any update on Swaine report?
>
>
>
> George:
>
>
>
> Thanks for your inquiry.
>
>
>
> Here's the state of play--
>
> · Last week we received a draft from Prof. Swaine. The draft was
> incomplete in that it did not yet contain conclusions. It is quite
> comprehensive on the interface of sovereign immunity and IGOs and
> demonstrates that this area is not fully developed or uniform, that a
> great deal of discretion is left to individual nations to determine
> the scope of recognized immunity, and that some considerations argue
> for waiver in the UDRP context as being acceptable, while others may
> lead to a contrary conclusion.
>
> · Due to travel schedules, the first time that Petter and I had a
> chance to discuss the draft with ICANN staff was yesterday. We are
> seeking to schedule a call with Prof. Swaine later this week if at all
> possible to raise various questions and issues as well as to determine
> what his preliminary conclusions are..
>
> · Our hope is to get a more complete draft distributed to all WG
> members as soon as possible, and certainly prior to the Marrakech meeting.
> Once we speak with Prof. Swaine we will schedule a WG call for either
> February 24 or March 2 (I depart for Marrakech on March 3) to prepare
> for our Marrakech meeting.
>
> · At our meeting in Marrakech, we intend to seek comments on the
> draft from all WG members, as well as from IGOs and GAC members.
> (Staff-do we as yet have a time and date for our WG meeting?)
> Following Marrakech we intend to move forward expeditiously on our
> work using the report as a basis for determining our course.
>
> Let me know if you have any additional questions at this time.
>
>
>
> Best regards, Philip
>
>
>
> Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal
>
> Virtualaw LLC
>
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>
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> 202-559-8597/Direct
>
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>
>
> "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: George Kirikos [mailto:icann at leap.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 4:33 PM
> To: Phil Corwin
> Cc: gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org<mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Any update on Swaine report?
>
>
>
> I just wanted to followup and see how things are progressing. If we
> don't get the draft Swaine report soon, then that means we're looking
> at sometime in March for our next teleconference? (i.e. there's no
> meeting tomorrow, and it wouldn't make sense to have a meeting next
> Wednesday unless the report was provided before the weekend, so folks
> can digest it and have informed comments/discussions).
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> George Kirikos
>
> 416-588-0269
>
> http://www.leap.com/
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 6:20 PM, Phil Corwin <psc at vlaw-dc.com<mailto:psc at vlaw-dc.com>> wrote:
>
>> Happy New Year, George.
>
>>
>
>> We have checked with Professor Swaine and are expecting a draft
>> document very soon, possibly later this week. As soon as we receive
>> it we will be back in touch with the WG.
>
>>
>
>> Best, Philip
>
>>
>
>> Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal
>
>> Virtualaw LLC
>
>> 1155 F Street, NW
>
>> Suite 1050
>
>> Washington, DC 20004
>
>> 202-559-8597/Direct
>
>> 202-559-8750/Fax
>
>> 202-255-6172/cell
>
>>
>
>> Twitter: @VlawDC
>
>>
>
>> "Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>
>> From: gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org>
>
>> [mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of George
>
>> Kirikos
>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 6:16 PM
>
>> To: gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org<mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org>
>
>> Subject: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Any update on Swaine report?
>
>>
>
>> Hi folks,
>
>>
>
>> Happy New Year.
>
>>
>
>> It's been a while, so I just wanted to see if we have any
>> news/updates regarding the Swaine report?
>
>>
>
>> Sincerely,
>
>>
>
>> George Kirikos
>
>> 416-588-0269
>
>> http://www.leap.com/
>
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