[Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] GNSO Council Liaison Summary Report (Re: IGO-INGO Curative Rights Policy Development Process Working Group)

[George Kirikos]

Hi folks,

With regards to the Summary Report which is to be discussed tomorrow,
there are several parts of it that I disagree with, which I'll discuss
orally tomorrow during our call. However, some parts deserve a written
response, given that they contain supporting links (and the WebEx
interface really sucks, compared to Adobe Connect) so it's best to
post them in advance of the call.

1. On page 2, it's asserted that "the number of active participants is
extremely low" (it's also repeated on page 3, i.e. "small number of
participants' views"). However, that's not consistent with the facts.
For example, the IRTP-D PDP, the most recently completed GNSO PDP
according to:

https://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/inactive

has its attendance logs at:

https://community.icann.org/display/ITPIPDWG/Attendance+Log

If one adds up the "total attended" column, and divide it by the total
number of meetings, one obtains the average attendance per meeting:

Sum of total attended column = 553
Total meetings = 56
Average = 9.88 per meeting

It is of note that both the GNSO Council and the ICANN Board adopted
their recommendations:

https://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/active/irtp-d

Now, let's compare this to the IGO PDP and its attendance records:

https://community.icann.org/display/gnsoicrpmpdp/Attendance+Records

Sum of total attended column = 711
Total meetings = 71
Average = 10.01 per meeting

So, there has actually been HIGHER average attendance (10.01 vs 9.88
per meeting) in this IGO PDP, compared to the IRTP-D whose work was
successfully completed.

2. On page 3, it's claimed that adoption of Option 4 "will require a
Charter amendment" for that other PDP." I'm not convinced that that's
a requirement. The RPM PDP charter is at:

https://community.icann.org/display/RARPMRIAGPWG/WG+Charter?preview=3D/5872=
9944/58730036/Charter%20for%20RPM%20PDP_final.pdf

and states on page 3 of the charter that:

"(b) Coordination with Other Parallel Efforts
In the course of its work, the Working Group should monitor the
progress of and, where appropriate, coordinate with, other ICANN
groups that are working on topics that may overlap with or
***otherwise provide useful input to this PDP.***
....
In addition, the RPM PDP Working Group should also take into
consideration the work/outcome of the TMCH Independent Review, the CCT
Review, and ***any other relevant GNSO policy development***"

(emphasis added)

So, I think this situation was already covered by the RPM PDP's
current charter, and doesn't need an amendment.

As I mentioned earlier, there are other parts of the Summary Report I
have concerns about, but I'll save them for tomorrow's call, as they
don't require any links/quotes.

Sincerely,

George Kirikos
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On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 11:36 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org> wrote:
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> On behalf of Susan Kawaguchi, GNSO Council liaison to this PDP Working
> Group, please find attached the summary report that Susan mentions in her 10
> April email (below). You should already have received the calendar
> invitation and call details for the next Working Group call, currently
> scheduled for next Thursday 19 April at our usual time of 1600 UTC. Susan
> will be on the call to discuss the report and proposed next steps with
> everyone.
>
>
>
> Thanks and cheers
>
> Mary & Steve
>
>
>
> From: Susan Kawaguchi <susankpolicy at gmail.com>
> Date: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 12:26
> To: "gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org>
> Cc: Heather Forrest <haforrestesq at gmail.com>, Mary Wong
> <mary.wong at icann.org>, Steve Chan <steve.chan at icann.org>
> Subject: [Ext] IGO-INGO Curative Rights Policy Development Process Working
> Group
>
>
>
> Dear IGO-INGO Curative Rights Policy Development Process Working Group
> members,
>
>
>
> I write to update you, in my role as GNSO Council Liaison to this Working
> Group, on the status of the WG member consultation process that was set out
> in my email of 9 March 2018 and then actioned during ICANN61 and following.
>
>
>
> As envisaged in my email of 9 March, staff and I are preparing a report for
> the Working Group on the input received at and since ICANN61, with
> recommendations on next steps from me and Heather Forrest, the GNSO Chair.
> We anticipate posting the report to the WG list at the end of this week, for
> discussion at a WG meeting to be held at the group's usual time next
> Thursday, 19 April. At that meeting, I will be happy to present a summary of
> the report and its recommendations, and answer questions from WG members.
>
>
>
> An email from staff with call details will be circulated shortly. Bear in
> mind that we do not have Adobe Connect, so alternate arrangements will be
> made to support our call.
>
>
>
> In the meantime, I sincerely thank you for taking the time to provide me
> with your feedback, which contributes to the substantial work of the group
> on this challenging policy area.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
> Susan Kawaguchi
>
> Councilor for the Business Constituency
>
>
>
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