[Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Invitation to a call with the IGO-INGO Curative Rights Working Group co-chairs

Paul Keating Paul at law.es
Mon Jan 8 11:26:28 UTC 2018


I would like to be included in the call please.

Thank you

Paul Keating

On 1/6/18, 12:33 AM, "Gnso-igo-ingo-crp on behalf of George Kirikos"
<gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org on behalf of icann at leap.com> wrote:

>Just confirming receipt of the invitation to a call on Thursday, 11
>January 2018 at 17:00 UTC for 60 minutes.
>(09:00 PST, 12:00 EST, 17:00 London GMT, 18:00 Paris CET) that I was
>sent off-list. If others interested in the Section 3.7 appeal want to
>attend, presumably they can contact ICANN Staff (Mary, etc.) for the
>relevant passcode/invite and call-in details.
>
>Have a nice weekend!
>
>Sincerely,
>
>George Kirikos
>416-588-0269
>http://www.leap.com/
>
>On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Paul Tattersfield <gpmgroup at gmail.com>
>wrote:
>> Dear Mary,
>>
>> I would like to attend the meeting if possible, please can you publish
>>the
>> details or send me a copy?
>>
>> Yours sincerely,
>>
>>
>> Paul.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 12:27 AM, Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear George,
>>>
>>> This note is to confirm that staff will be going ahead to schedule the
>>> call between you, Phil and Petter soon, although it will not be before
>>>next
>>> week. Next Thursday is certainly a possibility, so thank you for the
>>> suggestion. As highlighted previously, the call will be recorded and
>>>the
>>> ICANN Ombudsman invited to attend as an observer.
>>>
>>> In line with the message from Heather Forrest, GNSO Chair, sent to this
>>> mailing list on 24 December 2017, if other PDP Working Group members
>>> supporting George¹s invocation of Section 3.7 would like to attend the
>>> meeting, please let us know so that we can be sure to send you the call
>>> details.
>>>
>>> Thanks and cheers
>>> Mary
>>>
>>> On 1/2/18, 08:39, "George Kirikos" <icann at leap.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>     I'm just following up on the emails of December 21, 2017. Is the
>>>     Thursday January 4, 2018 date and 12:00 noon (Eastern time) time,
>>>     corresponding to the usual IGO PDP conference call date/time
>>>     acceptable? If not, I'd suggest the following week (Thursday
>>>January
>>>     11, 2018 at 12:00 noon Eastern time) as an alternative.
>>>
>>>     Please advise before the end of the business day today.
>>>
>>>     Sincerely,
>>>
>>>     George Kirikos
>>>     416-588-0269
>>>
>>> 
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>>>aQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x
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>>>
>>>
>>>     On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 5:08 PM, George Kirikos <icann at leap.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>     > Hi folks,
>>>     >
>>>     > I received the following email off-list, but I believe it is of
>>>     > interest to the entire PDP working group membership. I'm ready to
>>>     > proceed on a call in early January. I believe we already had a
>>>call
>>>     > scheduled at our normal time on Thursday, January 4, 2018, so it
>>> would
>>>     > make sense to discuss things at that time. That call should be
>>>made
>>>     > open to all interested members of this PDP, just like our regular
>>>     > meetings via Adobe Connect, etc.. It's not a concern that is
>>>unique
>>> to
>>>     > me.
>>>     >
>>>     > I of course do not withdraw the appeal.
>>>     >
>>>     > I find it interesting that this email was sent very shortly
>>>after I
>>>     > sent my most email (which cc'd Ms. Forrest). If you have time,
>>> please
>>>     > explain why you could not have sent the exact same email 2 days
>>>ago
>>> or
>>>     > even yesterday? What "new information" do you have now that you
>>> didn't
>>>     > have 2 days ago?
>>>     >
>>>     > Lastly, I believe the **entire membership** of this PDP should
>>>have
>>>     > the opportunity to consult with the GNSO Council, in order to
>>>ensure
>>>     > that all views are heard, not just the voices of the co-chairs.
>>> Please
>>>     > ensure that all communications between the co-chairs and the GNSO
>>>     > Council are also copied to the public mailing list of this IGO
>>>PDP
>>> so
>>>     > that they are "on the record", in accordance with ICANN's
>>> transparency
>>>     > and accountability mechanisms.
>>>     >
>>>     > Sincerely,
>>>     >
>>>     > George Kirikos
>>>     > 416-588-0269
>>>     >
>>> 
>>>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIF
>>>aQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x
>>>6c2w3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=_ScY_DyFMMJfUercd5VM8RPKzrDDNzVQHe3Hu2idYpI&s=X
>>>C5VETDOsHh2D6-W5YTRqueB9blSgkSuG-27KuOy3rM&e=
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     > On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>     >> Dear George,
>>>     >>
>>>     >>
>>>     >>
>>>     >> This email is being sent by ICANN staff on behalf of Phil and
>>> Petter, the
>>>     >> co-chairs of the IGO-INGO Access to Curative Rights PDP Working
>>> Group.
>>>     >>
>>>     >>
>>>     >>
>>>     >> Dear George,
>>>     >>
>>>     >>
>>>     >>
>>>     >> We note that, in your email dated 19th December 2017 and sent to
>>> the
>>>     >> IGO-INGO Access to Curative Rights Working Group mailing list,
>>>you
>>> stated
>>>     >> that you were invoking the appeal process outlined in Section
>>>3.7
>>> of the
>>>     >> GNSO Working Group Guidelines
>>>     >>
>>> 
>>>(https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_
>>>council_annex-2D1-2Dgnso-2Dwg-2Dguidelines-2D01sep16-2Den.pdf&d=DwIFaQ&c
>>>=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w
>>>3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=_ScY_DyFMMJfUercd5VM8RPKzrDDNzVQHe3Hu2idYpI&s=EKMDg
>>>dmplJDij8lRe37OCiPmP52jdJHC-BmJ3KXaYKI&e=).
>>>     >> That section provides, in relevant part, that a ³WG member that
>>> believes
>>>     >> that his/her contributions are being systematically ignored or
>>> discounted Š
>>>     >> should first discuss the circumstances with the WG Chair. In the
>>> event that
>>>     >> the matter cannot be resolved satisfactorily, the WG member
>>>should
>>> request
>>>     >> an opportunity to discuss the situation with the Chair of the
>>> Chartering
>>>     >> Organization or their designated representative.² As the
>>>co-chairs
>>> of this
>>>     >> Working Group, we therefore invite you to do a call with us in
>>> early January
>>>     >> 2018. The call will be recorded and, given the nature of the
>>> matters that
>>>     >> you have raised on the mailing list concerning our handling of
>>>the
>>> Working
>>>     >> Group¹s progress toward a consensus call, the ICANN Ombudsman
>>>will
>>> be
>>>     >> invited to sit in on the call.
>>>     >>
>>>     >>
>>>     >>
>>>     >> Concurrently, we will be consulting the GNSO Council on the
>>> questions that
>>>     >> you and other Working Group members have asked regarding Working
>>> Group
>>>     >> consensus calls. As a result, we will not be conducting any
>>> meetings of the
>>>     >> Working Group or launching a poll as a basis for subsequent
>>> initiation of
>>>     >> the consensus call process until we have had the opportunity to
>>> consult the
>>>     >> Council which, as our Chartering Organization, is the manager of
>>> all GNSO
>>>     >> Policy Development Processes.
>>>     >>
>>>     >>
>>>     >>
>>>     >> Please let us know if you wish to proceed with the call with
>>>us, as
>>>     >> prescribed by Section 3.7 of the GNSO Working Group Guidelines.
>>>If
>>> so, we
>>>     >> will ask ICANN staff to find a mutually suitable time in early
>>> January 2018.
>>>     >> If you do not wish to proceed with the call, we will consider
>>>it a
>>>     >> withdrawal of your appeal.
>>>     >>
>>>     >>
>>>     >>
>>>     >>
>>>     >>
>>>     >> Best regards,
>>>     >>
>>>     >> Philip and Petter
>>>     >>
>>>     >>
>>>
>>>
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