[Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Proposed agenda for the WG call on 12 June 2018 at 16:00 UTC

[George Kirikos]

Actually, I spoke too soon. For Recommendation #2, the text was
changed (to what I initially thought was acceptable), but it only
captured *part* of the change, not the full change. i.e. my change
was:

"An IGO may consider this to be an option where it does not have
registered trademark rights or service mark rights in its name or
acronym (as applicable) but believes it has certain unregistered
trademark or service marks rights for which it might adduce….."

But this new document instead says:

"An IGO may consider this to be an option where it does not have
registered trademark rights or service mark rights in its name or
acronym (as applicable) but believes it has certain unregistered
rights for which it might adduce….."

i.e. the *second* "trademark or service" marks is *missing* from this
new version. So, unless the wording is changed again, count me as *NOT
SUPPORT* of this text.

I'm going to go through this more thoroughly later, and consolidate
all future comments into a single email.

Sincerely,

George Kirikos
416-588-0269
http://www.leap.com/









On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 5:34 PM, George Kirikos <icann at leap.com> wrote:
> This is late, and given what I've posted the past few days, one would
> have expected it to have been triple-checked for accuracy, etc. I went
> directly to Recommendation #2, and noticed I'm now listed as "Support"
> and Paul Tattersfield is listed as "do not support" (whereas in the
> document before this, sent by Petter, both Paul T. and I were listed
> as "do not support"):
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> https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-igo-ingo-crp/2018-June/001238.html
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> Here was my comment:
> https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-igo-ingo-crp/2018-June/001219.html
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> and Paul T's: https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-igo-ingo-crp/2018-June/001237.html
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> both of us wanted slight changing of the wording.
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> So, I see that the document that Steve circulated *does* change the
> wording, so my "Support" in the new document is accurate. But, then
> since Paul T agreed with me (and presumably agrees with the new text),
> why is he still listed as "Do Not Support"???
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> Also,  we know from posts on the mailing list that Jim Bikoff
> expressly said he only supports Recommendation #1 !
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> https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-igo-ingo-crp/2018-June/001256.html
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> "All, please understand my position in support of recommendation 1
> that no change to UDRP or URS or special procedure is warranted.
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> No support for other recommendations."
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> So, that's 2 errors (i.e. Paul T flips to "Support" and Jim Bikoff is
> added to "Do not support")
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> So, this *still* has *obvious* errors, and I haven't even reviewed it
> closely (so there could be, and probably are, even more). I have so
> little confidence, I basically have to *redo* it on my own, on a
> compressed time frame.
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> As for the agenda, I'd like my new Section 3.7 appeal to be a topic
> added to the agenda (which does require a call between the chair and
> myself, and since we're both going to be present -- or it could be
> immediately after the call), along with the general topic of how it's
> humanly possible to get a final report out by Sunday. Or if it's
> already been decided that that timeline is off the table, tell us now,
> to release some pressure from this PDP.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> George Kirikos
> 416-588-0269
> http://www.leap.com/
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> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 5:03 PM, Steve Chan <steve.chan at icann.org> wrote:
>> Dear WG Members,
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>> With apologies for late delivery, as George noted, please find the proposed
>> agenda for the WG call on 12 June 2018 at 16:00 UTC for 90 minutes.
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>> Welcome / SOIs
>> Review of Initial Consensus Level Designations
>> Next Steps
>> AOB
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>> In regards to agenda item 2, please see the attached document to support
>> those discussions. This document follows and is a revised version of the one
>> sent by Petter on 9 June 2018.
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>> Best,
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>> Steve
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