[Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Current Summary (May 9, 2018) of Public Display of Possible Consensus
Mary Wong
mary.wong at icann.org
Thu May 10 15:56:06 UTC 2018
Dear all,
As all Working Group members have received copies of the documents prepared by George, in view of the sensitivities around whether and what form of polling is acceptable to the Working Group as a whole and the fact that we have not conducted a formal consensus call of the kind typical for a GNSO PDP, Susan (when facilitating the call coming up) will include a discussion on the consensus process to be followed.
We thank Working Group members who have provided their feedback through the various opportunities and mechanisms provided to date.
Cheers
Mary & Steve
On 5/10/18, 11:51, "Gnso-igo-ingo-crp on behalf of George Kirikos" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org on behalf of icann at leap.com> wrote:
Again, it was never a poll. Remember, ICANN staff and Susan wouldn't
provide correct results for March office hours, as there was a
discrepancy. So, since folks feared that their views weren't properly
reflected, I asked those who were inclined to share their views:
https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-igo-ingo-crp/2018-May/001142.html
"If you'd like to post your position/thoughts in an open and
transparent manner, please do so in this thread, using the following
template"
So, it's an open and transparent posting of people's positions and
thoughts, with a view of encouraging a discussion of getting to
consensus.
Sincerely,
George Kirikos
416-588-0269
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=k8B7P_AsQlvBcICb18j8hwLuxvyaddcOuvcDVQShsXI&e=
On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Paul Keating <Paul at law.es> wrote:
> Phil,
>
> I respectfully ask that you halt this bickering. Our mandate - post
> appeal - was to work towards a consensus. In my mind anything that gets
> us there is a good thing and should not be ignored. I encourage you to
> elicit any consensus from those on the call AND to include the results of
> the poll as well.
>
>
>
> On 5/10/18, 5:30 PM, "Gnso-igo-ingo-crp on behalf of Corwin, Philip via
> Gnso-igo-ingo-crp" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org on behalf of
> gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org> wrote:
>
>>For the record, I object to any display of, reference to, or other use of
>>the spreadsheet provided by George during today¹s call on the grounds
>>that it constitutes the results of an illicit poll that was not conducted
>>in conformity with GNSO WG Guidelines.
>>
>>I have no objection to WG members stating their policy preferences during
>>the call so long as the illicit poll results are not referenced.
>>
>>Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On May 10, 2018, at 10:04 AM, George Kirikos <icann at leap.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> In preparation for today's call, I've generated an Excel spreadsheet
>>> version of the updated Google Spreadsheet:
>>>
>>>
>>>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreadsheets_d_e_2PACX-2D1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAuz315&d=DwIGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=ApojLokO4-EuQjge9CYH7SmwMVy3eNmOd7u5xZdEcoY&e=
>>>diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
>>>
>>> as well as a PDF of the Summary page. They're attached. If folks have
>>> additions/updates/changes, let me know. (can easily update the live
>>> Google spreadsheet; PDF and XLS generation/distribution takes longer).
>>>
>>> If ICANN staff would add them to the Wiki for today's call, that'd be
>>> constructive.
>>>
>>> See you in 2 hours.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> George Kirikos
>>> 416-588-0269
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=k8B7P_AsQlvBcICb18j8hwLuxvyaddcOuvcDVQShsXI&e=
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 8:31 PM, George Kirikos <icann at leap.com> wrote:
>>>> Just a quick heads up that I've updated the Google spreadsheet to
>>>> change Paul T's support for Option #1 to yellow from green (his
>>>> support depends on what happens with Option #6). I won't regenerate
>>>> the PDF/XLS at this time (pending any other changes or additions). If
>>>> there are any other changes desired, please let me know.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreadsheets_d_e_2PACX-2D1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAuz31&d=DwIGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=4epEfrAYnl0UKgqOzJBP1ZR6Mn8JqO1lVA-yiSWbvVk&e=
>>>>5diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
>>>>
>>>> (should update changes automatically within 5 minutes, if you loaded
>>>> it previously)
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>> George Kirikos
>>>> 416-588-0269
>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=k8B7P_AsQlvBcICb18j8hwLuxvyaddcOuvcDVQShsXI&e=
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:56 PM, George Kirikos <icann at leap.com> wrote:
>>>>> Here we go --- 11 responses (so far) summarized at:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreadsheets_d_e_2PACX-2D1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAuz3&d=DwIGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=yKltImV5y4FzfoXaePqqRhDzpjrmpjwV7A7lEJIH5FU&e=
>>>>>15diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
>>>>>
>>>>> and attached as PDF and XLS spreadsheets.
>>>>>
>>>>> Happy to add more or make any changes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>
>>>>> George Kirikos
>>>>> 416-588-0269
>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=k8B7P_AsQlvBcICb18j8hwLuxvyaddcOuvcDVQShsXI&e=
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:36 PM, George Kirikos <icann at leap.com>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>> Oops, I forgot to attach the PDF and XLS spreadsheet in the prior
>>>>>> email (the web link works). But, Paul Tattersfield has just added an
>>>>>> 11th response, so I will re-send very shortly, after regenerating the
>>>>>> PDF and XLS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> George Kirikos
>>>>>> 416-588-0269
>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=k8B7P_AsQlvBcICb18j8hwLuxvyaddcOuvcDVQShsXI&e=
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:33 PM, George Kirikos <icann at leap.com>
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've summarized the responses to date, for the benefit of tomorrow's
>>>>>>> call. I'd appreciate it if staff would add these to the wiki and
>>>>>>> agenda.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There have been 10 responses so far (more are certainly welcome),
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>> I've summarized them in a spreadsheet (attached), and also in a PDF
>>>>>>> (just the first page of the PDF; couldn't see an easy way to get all
>>>>>>> the other tabs into the PDF automatically; other tabs are just the
>>>>>>>raw
>>>>>>> posts).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One can also see it via a web browser at:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreadsheets_d_e_2PACX-2D1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAu&d=DwIGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=IOAmWkT7CHK2KmLAbqmkcKAvcJHMxl_WCtr0ifk9LrE&e=
>>>>>>>z315diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The colour coding is my personal interpretation. I'm happy to make
>>>>>>>any
>>>>>>> changes/updates, if folks so desire.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> George Kirikos
>>>>>>> 416-588-0269
>>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=k8B7P_AsQlvBcICb18j8hwLuxvyaddcOuvcDVQShsXI&e=
>>>
>>>
>>> <PublicDisplayOfPossibleConsensus-20180510.xlsx>
>>> <PublicDisplayOfPossibleConsensus-Summary-20180510.pdf>
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