[Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Current Summary (May 9, 2018) of Public Display of Possible Consensus
Paul Keating
Paul at law.es
Thu May 10 16:01:50 UTC 2018
MUCH BETTER way of addressing this. Thank you Mary.
On 5/10/18, 5:56 PM, "Mary Wong" <mary.wong at icann.org> wrote:
>Dear all,
>
>As all Working Group members have received copies of the documents
>prepared by George, in view of the sensitivities around whether and what
>form of polling is acceptable to the Working Group as a whole and the
>fact that we have not conducted a formal consensus call of the kind
>typical for a GNSO PDP, Susan (when facilitating the call coming up) will
>include a discussion on the consensus process to be followed.
>
>We thank Working Group members who have provided their feedback through
>the various opportunities and mechanisms provided to date.
>
>Cheers
>Mary & Steve
>
>On 5/10/18, 11:51, "Gnso-igo-ingo-crp on behalf of George Kirikos"
><gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org on behalf of icann at leap.com> wrote:
>
> Again, it was never a poll. Remember, ICANN staff and Susan wouldn't
> provide correct results for March office hours, as there was a
> discrepancy. So, since folks feared that their views weren't properly
> reflected, I asked those who were inclined to share their views:
>
> https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-igo-ingo-crp/2018-May/001142.html
>
> "If you'd like to post your position/thoughts in an open and
> transparent manner, please do so in this thread, using the following
> template"
>
> So, it's an open and transparent posting of people's positions and
> thoughts, with a view of encouraging a discussion of getting to
> consensus.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> George Kirikos
> 416-588-0269
>
>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIGaQ
>&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w
>3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=k8B7P_A
>sQlvBcICb18j8hwLuxvyaddcOuvcDVQShsXI&e=
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Paul Keating <Paul at law.es> wrote:
> > Phil,
> >
> > I respectfully ask that you halt this bickering. Our mandate - post
> > appeal - was to work towards a consensus. In my mind anything that
>gets
> > us there is a good thing and should not be ignored. I encourage
>you to
> > elicit any consensus from those on the call AND to include the
>results of
> > the poll as well.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 5/10/18, 5:30 PM, "Gnso-igo-ingo-crp on behalf of Corwin, Philip
>via
> > Gnso-igo-ingo-crp" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org on behalf of
> > gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org> wrote:
> >
> >>For the record, I object to any display of, reference to, or other
>use of
> >>the spreadsheet provided by George during today¹s call on the
>grounds
> >>that it constitutes the results of an illicit poll that was not
>conducted
> >>in conformity with GNSO WG Guidelines.
> >>
> >>I have no objection to WG members stating their policy preferences
>during
> >>the call so long as the illicit poll results are not referenced.
> >>
> >>Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On May 10, 2018, at 10:04 AM, George Kirikos <icann at leap.com>
>wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi folks,
> >>>
> >>> In preparation for today's call, I've generated an Excel
>spreadsheet
> >>> version of the updated Google Spreadsheet:
> >>>
> >>>
>
>>>>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_sp
>>>>readsheets_d_e_2PACX-2D1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAuz315&d=DwIGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6
>>>>wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb5cjS
>>>>_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=ApojLokO4-EuQj
>>>>ge9CYH7SmwMVy3eNmOd7u5xZdEcoY&e=
> >>>diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
> >>>
> >>> as well as a PDF of the Summary page. They're attached. If folks
>have
> >>> additions/updates/changes, let me know. (can easily update the
>live
> >>> Google spreadsheet; PDF and XLS generation/distribution takes
>longer).
> >>>
> >>> If ICANN staff would add them to the Wiki for today's call,
>that'd be
> >>> constructive.
> >>>
> >>> See you in 2 hours.
> >>>
> >>> Sincerely,
> >>>
> >>> George Kirikos
> >>> 416-588-0269
> >>>
>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIGaQ
>&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w
>3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=k8B7P_A
>sQlvBcICb18j8hwLuxvyaddcOuvcDVQShsXI&e=
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 8:31 PM, George Kirikos <icann at leap.com>
>wrote:
> >>>> Just a quick heads up that I've updated the Google spreadsheet to
> >>>> change Paul T's support for Option #1 to yellow from green (his
> >>>> support depends on what happens with Option #6). I won't
>regenerate
> >>>> the PDF/XLS at this time (pending any other changes or
>additions). If
> >>>> there are any other changes desired, please let me know.
> >>>>
> >>>>
>
>>>>>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_s
>>>>>preadsheets_d_e_2PACX-2D1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAuz31&d=DwIGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp
>>>>>6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb5c
>>>>>jS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=4epEfrAYnl0
>>>>>UKgqOzJBP1ZR6Mn8JqO1lVA-yiSWbvVk&e=
> >>>>5diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
> >>>>
> >>>> (should update changes automatically within 5 minutes, if you
>loaded
> >>>> it previously)
> >>>>
> >>>> Sincerely,
> >>>>
> >>>> George Kirikos
> >>>> 416-588-0269
> >>>>
>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIGaQ
>&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w
>3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=k8B7P_A
>sQlvBcICb18j8hwLuxvyaddcOuvcDVQShsXI&e=
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:56 PM, George Kirikos <icann at leap.com>
>wrote:
> >>>>> Here we go --- 11 responses (so far) summarized at:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
>
>>>>>>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_
>>>>>>spreadsheets_d_e_2PACX-2D1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAuz3&d=DwIGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJ
>>>>>>p6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb
>>>>>>5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=yKltImV5
>>>>>>y4FzfoXaePqqRhDzpjrmpjwV7A7lEJIH5FU&e=
> >>>>>15diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and attached as PDF and XLS spreadsheets.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Happy to add more or make any changes.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sincerely,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> George Kirikos
> >>>>> 416-588-0269
> >>>>>
>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIGaQ
>&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w
>3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=k8B7P_A
>sQlvBcICb18j8hwLuxvyaddcOuvcDVQShsXI&e=
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:36 PM, George Kirikos <icann at leap.com>
> >>>>>>wrote:
> >>>>>> Oops, I forgot to attach the PDF and XLS spreadsheet in the
>prior
> >>>>>> email (the web link works). But, Paul Tattersfield has just
>added an
> >>>>>> 11th response, so I will re-send very shortly, after
>regenerating the
> >>>>>> PDF and XLS.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sincerely,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> George Kirikos
> >>>>>> 416-588-0269
> >>>>>>
>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIGaQ
>&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w
>3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=k8B7P_A
>sQlvBcICb18j8hwLuxvyaddcOuvcDVQShsXI&e=
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:33 PM, George Kirikos
><icann at leap.com>
> >>>>>>>wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi folks,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I've summarized the responses to date, for the benefit of
>tomorrow's
> >>>>>>> call. I'd appreciate it if staff would add these to the wiki
>and
> >>>>>>> agenda.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> There have been 10 responses so far (more are certainly
>welcome),
> >>>>>>>and
> >>>>>>> I've summarized them in a spreadsheet (attached), and also in
>a PDF
> >>>>>>> (just the first page of the PDF; couldn't see an easy way to
>get all
> >>>>>>> the other tabs into the PDF automatically; other tabs are
>just the
> >>>>>>>raw
> >>>>>>> posts).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> One can also see it via a web browser at:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
>
>>>>>>>>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.co
>>>>>>>>m_spreadsheets_d_e_2PACX-2D1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAu&d=DwIGaQ&c=FmY1u3
>>>>>>>>PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3x
>>>>>>>>l7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=IO
>>>>>>>>AmWkT7CHK2KmLAbqmkcKAvcJHMxl_WCtr0ifk9LrE&e=
>
>>>>>>>>z315diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The colour coding is my personal interpretation. I'm happy to
>make
> >>>>>>>any
> >>>>>>> changes/updates, if folks so desire.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sincerely,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> George Kirikos
> >>>>>>> 416-588-0269
> >>>>>>>
>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIGaQ
>&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w
>3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=k8B7P_A
>sQlvBcICb18j8hwLuxvyaddcOuvcDVQShsXI&e=
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> <PublicDisplayOfPossibleConsensus-20180510.xlsx>
> >>> <PublicDisplayOfPossibleConsensus-Summary-20180510.pdf>
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