[Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Current Summary (May 9, 2018) of Public Display of Possible Consensus

Paul Keating Paul at law.es
Thu May 10 16:01:50 UTC 2018


MUCH BETTER way of addressing this.  Thank you Mary.

On 5/10/18, 5:56 PM, "Mary Wong" <mary.wong at icann.org> wrote:

>Dear all,
>
>As all Working Group members have received copies of the documents
>prepared by George, in view of the sensitivities around whether and what
>form of polling is acceptable to the Working Group as a whole and the
>fact that we have not conducted a formal consensus call of the kind
>typical for a GNSO PDP, Susan (when facilitating the call coming up) will
>include a discussion on the consensus process to be followed.
>
>We thank Working Group members who have provided their feedback through
>the various opportunities and mechanisms provided to date.
>
>Cheers
>Mary & Steve
>
>On 5/10/18, 11:51, "Gnso-igo-ingo-crp on behalf of George Kirikos"
><gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org on behalf of icann at leap.com> wrote:
>
>    Again, it was never a poll. Remember, ICANN staff and Susan wouldn't
>    provide correct results for March office hours, as there was a
>    discrepancy. So, since folks feared that their views weren't properly
>    reflected, I asked those who were inclined to share their views:
>    
>    https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-igo-ingo-crp/2018-May/001142.html
>    
>    "If you'd like to post your position/thoughts in an open and
>    transparent manner, please do so in this thread, using the following
>    template"
>    
>    So, it's an open and transparent posting of people's positions and
>    thoughts, with a view of encouraging a discussion of getting to
>    consensus.
>    
>    Sincerely,
>    
>    George Kirikos
>    416-588-0269
>    
>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIGaQ
>&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w
>3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=k8B7P_A
>sQlvBcICb18j8hwLuxvyaddcOuvcDVQShsXI&e=
>    
>    
>    
>    On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Paul Keating <Paul at law.es> wrote:
>    > Phil,
>    >
>    > I respectfully ask that you halt this bickering.  Our mandate - post
>    > appeal - was to work towards a consensus.  In my mind anything that
>gets
>    > us there is a good thing and should not be ignored.  I encourage
>you to
>    > elicit any consensus from those on the call AND to include the
>results of
>    > the poll as well.
>    >
>    >
>    >
>    > On 5/10/18, 5:30 PM, "Gnso-igo-ingo-crp on behalf of Corwin, Philip
>via
>    > Gnso-igo-ingo-crp" <gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org on behalf of
>    > gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org> wrote:
>    >
>    >>For the record, I object to any display of, reference to, or other
>use of
>    >>the spreadsheet provided by George during today¹s call on the
>grounds
>    >>that it constitutes the results of an illicit poll that was not
>conducted
>    >>in conformity with GNSO WG Guidelines.
>    >>
>    >>I have no objection to WG members stating their policy preferences
>during
>    >>the call so long as the illicit poll results are not referenced.
>    >>
>    >>Sent from my iPhone
>    >>
>    >>> On May 10, 2018, at 10:04 AM, George Kirikos <icann at leap.com>
>wrote:
>    >>>
>    >>> Hi folks,
>    >>>
>    >>> In preparation for today's call, I've generated an Excel
>spreadsheet
>    >>> version of the updated Google Spreadsheet:
>    >>>
>    >>>
>    
>>>>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_sp
>>>>readsheets_d_e_2PACX-2D1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAuz315&d=DwIGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6
>>>>wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb5cjS
>>>>_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=ApojLokO4-EuQj
>>>>ge9CYH7SmwMVy3eNmOd7u5xZdEcoY&e=
>    >>>diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
>    >>>
>    >>> as well as a PDF of the Summary page. They're attached. If folks
>have
>    >>> additions/updates/changes, let me know. (can easily update the
>live
>    >>> Google spreadsheet; PDF and XLS generation/distribution takes
>longer).
>    >>>
>    >>> If ICANN staff would add them to the Wiki for today's call,
>that'd be
>    >>> constructive.
>    >>>
>    >>> See you in 2 hours.
>    >>>
>    >>> Sincerely,
>    >>>
>    >>> George Kirikos
>    >>> 416-588-0269
>    >>> 
>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIGaQ
>&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w
>3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=k8B7P_A
>sQlvBcICb18j8hwLuxvyaddcOuvcDVQShsXI&e=
>    >>>
>    >>>
>    >>>
>    >>>
>    >>>> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 8:31 PM, George Kirikos <icann at leap.com>
>wrote:
>    >>>> Just a quick heads up that I've updated the Google spreadsheet to
>    >>>> change Paul T's support for Option #1 to yellow from green (his
>    >>>> support depends on what happens with Option #6). I won't
>regenerate
>    >>>> the PDF/XLS at this time (pending any other changes or
>additions). If
>    >>>> there are any other changes desired, please let me know.
>    >>>>
>    >>>>
>    
>>>>>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_s
>>>>>preadsheets_d_e_2PACX-2D1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAuz31&d=DwIGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp
>>>>>6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb5c
>>>>>jS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=4epEfrAYnl0
>>>>>UKgqOzJBP1ZR6Mn8JqO1lVA-yiSWbvVk&e=
>    >>>>5diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
>    >>>>
>    >>>> (should update changes automatically within 5 minutes, if you
>loaded
>    >>>> it previously)
>    >>>>
>    >>>> Sincerely,
>    >>>>
>    >>>> George Kirikos
>    >>>> 416-588-0269
>    >>>> 
>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIGaQ
>&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w
>3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=k8B7P_A
>sQlvBcICb18j8hwLuxvyaddcOuvcDVQShsXI&e=
>    >>>>
>    >>>>> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:56 PM, George Kirikos <icann at leap.com>
>wrote:
>    >>>>> Here we go --- 11 responses (so far) summarized at:
>    >>>>>
>    >>>>>
>    
>>>>>>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_
>>>>>>spreadsheets_d_e_2PACX-2D1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAuz3&d=DwIGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJ
>>>>>>p6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3xl7xb
>>>>>>5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=yKltImV5
>>>>>>y4FzfoXaePqqRhDzpjrmpjwV7A7lEJIH5FU&e=
>    >>>>>15diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
>    >>>>>
>    >>>>> and attached as PDF and XLS spreadsheets.
>    >>>>>
>    >>>>> Happy to add more or make any changes.
>    >>>>>
>    >>>>> Sincerely,
>    >>>>>
>    >>>>> George Kirikos
>    >>>>> 416-588-0269
>    >>>>> 
>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIGaQ
>&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w
>3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=k8B7P_A
>sQlvBcICb18j8hwLuxvyaddcOuvcDVQShsXI&e=
>    >>>>>
>    >>>>>
>    >>>>>
>    >>>>>
>    >>>>>> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:36 PM, George Kirikos <icann at leap.com>
>    >>>>>>wrote:
>    >>>>>> Oops, I forgot to attach the PDF and XLS spreadsheet in the
>prior
>    >>>>>> email (the web link works). But, Paul Tattersfield has just
>added an
>    >>>>>> 11th response, so I will re-send very shortly, after
>regenerating the
>    >>>>>> PDF and XLS.
>    >>>>>>
>    >>>>>> Sincerely,
>    >>>>>>
>    >>>>>> George Kirikos
>    >>>>>> 416-588-0269
>    >>>>>> 
>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIGaQ
>&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w
>3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=k8B7P_A
>sQlvBcICb18j8hwLuxvyaddcOuvcDVQShsXI&e=
>    >>>>>>
>    >>>>>>> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:33 PM, George Kirikos
><icann at leap.com>
>    >>>>>>>wrote:
>    >>>>>>> Hi folks,
>    >>>>>>>
>    >>>>>>> I've summarized the responses to date, for the benefit of
>tomorrow's
>    >>>>>>> call. I'd appreciate it if staff would add these to the wiki
>and
>    >>>>>>> agenda.
>    >>>>>>>
>    >>>>>>> There have been 10 responses so far (more are certainly
>welcome),
>    >>>>>>>and
>    >>>>>>> I've summarized them in a spreadsheet (attached), and also in
>a PDF
>    >>>>>>> (just the first page of the PDF; couldn't see an easy way to
>get all
>    >>>>>>> the other tabs into the PDF automatically; other tabs are
>just the
>    >>>>>>>raw
>    >>>>>>> posts).
>    >>>>>>>
>    >>>>>>> One can also see it via a web browser at:
>    >>>>>>>
>    >>>>>>>
>    
>>>>>>>>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.co
>>>>>>>>m_spreadsheets_d_e_2PACX-2D1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAu&d=DwIGaQ&c=FmY1u3
>>>>>>>>PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w3x
>>>>>>>>l7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=IO
>>>>>>>>AmWkT7CHK2KmLAbqmkcKAvcJHMxl_WCtr0ifk9LrE&e=
>    
>>>>>>>>z315diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
>    >>>>>>>
>    >>>>>>> The colour coding is my personal interpretation. I'm happy to
>make
>    >>>>>>>any
>    >>>>>>> changes/updates, if folks so desire.
>    >>>>>>>
>    >>>>>>> Sincerely,
>    >>>>>>>
>    >>>>>>> George Kirikos
>    >>>>>>> 416-588-0269
>    >>>>>>> 
>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.leap.com_&d=DwIGaQ
>&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DJ69mAe-idEhpAMF1nu2x6c2w
>3xl7xb5cjS_7sB4h6Y&m=WLzN24rLFylSgyrphPo3qO6QvN_jvH--yz73QpEvDZo&s=k8B7P_A
>sQlvBcICb18j8hwLuxvyaddcOuvcDVQShsXI&e=
>    >>>
>    >>>
>    >>> <PublicDisplayOfPossibleConsensus-20180510.xlsx>
>    >>> <PublicDisplayOfPossibleConsensus-Summary-20180510.pdf>
>    >>> _______________________________________________
>    >>> Gnso-igo-ingo-crp mailing list
>    >>> Gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org
>    >>> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-igo-ingo-crp
>    >>_______________________________________________
>    >>Gnso-igo-ingo-crp mailing list
>    >>Gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org
>    >>https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-igo-ingo-crp
>    >
>    >
>    _______________________________________________
>    Gnso-igo-ingo-crp mailing list
>    Gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org
>    https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-igo-ingo-crp
>




More information about the Gnso-igo-ingo-crp mailing list