[Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Reminder: Co-Chairs’ Summary, Statement, and Proposed Next Steps” (January 31, 2018),

Thu May 10 16:06:40 UTC 2018

Just a reminder, that in the “Co-Chairs’ Summary, Statement, and Proposed Next Steps” (January 31, 2018),based on the second call between Mr Kirikos and us co-chairs, on Mr Kirikos’ appeal under Section 3.7, Phil and I suggested some steps to move forward:

a) Determine whether WG members wish to hold another call to attempt to further clarify and consolidate the existing six options for resolution of Recommendation Three.

b) Immediately after such call (or just immediately, if it is not supported) prepare and distribute a public and transparent poll of WG members to support their primary choice among Recommendation Three options; and their support/opposition and additional comments for the remaining options, as well as the other three Recommendations, with poll results to be tabulated and distributed as soon as feasible during February. At that time the co-chairs will “make an evaluation of the [consensus level]designation and publish it for the group to review” to initiate the consensus call process through the method recommended in Section 3.6 of the Guidelines [<https://gnso.icann.org/en/council/annex-1-gnso-wg-guidelines-01sep16-en.pdf>].

c) Resume WG calls to discuss the poll results, co-chairs’ estimated designations, and move toward final consensus positions while preparing for the facilitated session.

d) Hold a facilitated WG session at ICANN 61.

That conclusion and suggestion to move forward was howeverstrongly opposed by Mr Kirikos, who stated that:

“A poll (non-anonymous, and agreed to by all before it got sent out,unlike the last one) was supposed to be a "last resort", *IF* thefacilitated process to reach consensus failed. In other words,if itwas ever to take place, it would only be *after* the facilitatedprocess…I don't agree with the newly proposed process at all, as itdoesn't reflect what was agreed on January 18, 2018. If the co-chairsare reneging on that agreement, I intend to invoke Section 3.7 again.” (February 1, 2018).

/ Petter

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Thank you

10 maj 2018 17:53:28 +02:00, skrev George Kirikos <icann at leap.com>:

> Phil: I'm glad you insist that the guidelines be followed. That's
> exactly what I've wanted from day 1. What do the guidelines say about
> anonymous polls, like the ones from October and March?
> 
> I too will be insisting that the guidelines be followed -- by you and
> Petter (as co-chairs), and by Susan/Heather.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> George Kirikos
> 416-588-0269
> <http://www.leap.com/>
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 11:50 AM, Corwin, Philip <<pcorwin at verisign.com>> wrote:
> 
> > Asserting my rights as a member and insisting that the Guidelines are followed is not bickering.
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> > 
> > > On May 10, 2018, at 11:47 AM, Paul Keating <Paul at law.es> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Phil,
> > > 
> > > I respectfully ask that you halt this bickering. Our mandate - post
> > > appeal - was to work towards a consensus. In my mind anything that gets
> > > us there is a good thing and should not be ignored. I encourage you to
> > > elicit any consensus from those on the call AND to include the results of
> > > the poll as well.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 5/10/18, 5:30 PM, "Gnso-igo-ingo-crp on behalf of Corwin, Philip via
> > > Gnso-igo-ingo-crp" <<gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of
> > > <gnso-igo-ingo-crp at icann.org>> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > For the record, I object to any display of, reference to, or other use of
> > > > the spreadsheet provided by George during today¹s call on the grounds
> > > > that it constitutes the results of an illicit poll that was not conducted
> > > > in conformity with GNSO WG Guidelines.
> > > > 
> > > > I have no objection to WG members stating their policy preferences during
> > > > the call so long as the illicit poll results are not referenced.
> > > > 
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > On May 10, 2018, at 10:04 AM, George Kirikos <<icann at leap.com>> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hi folks,
> > > > > 
> > > > > In preparation for today's call, I've generated an Excel spreadsheet
> > > > > version of the updated Google Spreadsheet:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAuz315>
> > > > > diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
> > > > > 
> > > > > as well as a PDF of the Summary page. They're attached. If folks have
> > > > > additions/updates/changes, let me know. (can easily update the live
> > > > > Google spreadsheet; PDF and XLS generation/distribution takes longer).
> > > > > 
> > > > > If ICANN staff would add them to the Wiki for today's call, that'd be
> > > > > constructive.
> > > > > 
> > > > > See you in 2 hours.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > 
> > > > > George Kirikos
> > > > > 416-588-0269
> > > > > <http://www.leap.com/>
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 8:31 PM, George Kirikos <<icann at leap.com>> wrote:
> > > > > > Just a quick heads up that I've updated the Google spreadsheet to
> > > > > > change Paul T's support for Option #1 to yellow from green (his
> > > > > > support depends on what happens with Option #6). I won't regenerate
> > > > > > the PDF/XLS at this time (pending any other changes or additions). If
> > > > > > there are any other changes desired, please let me know.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAuz31>
> > > > > > 5diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > (should update changes automatically within 5 minutes, if you loaded
> > > > > > it previously)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > George Kirikos
> > > > > > 416-588-0269
> > > > > > <http://www.leap.com/>
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:56 PM, George Kirikos <<icann at leap.com>> wrote:
> > > > > > > Here we go --- 11 responses (so far) summarized at:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAuz3>
> > > > > > > 15diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > and attached as PDF and XLS spreadsheets.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Happy to add more or make any changes.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > George Kirikos
> > > > > > > 416-588-0269
> > > > > > > <http://www.leap.com/>
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:36 PM, George Kirikos <<icann at leap.com>>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Oops, I forgot to attach the PDF and XLS spreadsheet in the prior
> > > > > > > > email (the web link works). But, Paul Tattersfield has just added an
> > > > > > > > 11th response, so I will re-send very shortly, after regenerating the
> > > > > > > > PDF and XLS.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > George Kirikos
> > > > > > > > 416-588-0269
> > > > > > > > <http://www.leap.com/>
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 7:33 PM, George Kirikos <<icann at leap.com>>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hi folks,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I've summarized the responses to date, for the benefit of tomorrow's
> > > > > > > > > call. I'd appreciate it if staff would add these to the wiki and
> > > > > > > > > agenda.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > There have been 10 responses so far (more are certainly welcome),
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > I've summarized them in a spreadsheet (attached), and also in a PDF
> > > > > > > > > (just the first page of the PDF; couldn't see an easy way to get all
> > > > > > > > > the other tabs into the PDF automatically; other tabs are just the
> > > > > > > > > raw
> > > > > > > > > posts).
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > One can also see it via a web browser at:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQrdpthCvFIGoECeVWbAu>
> > > > > > > > > z315diOKXIj2JoO5XhLzk7C_9ariI3NKF8oOLt3PMsBIZg6JMXSvCiOANV/pubhtml
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > The colour coding is my personal interpretation. I'm happy to make
> > > > > > > > > any
> > > > > > > > > changes/updates, if folks so desire.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > George Kirikos
> > > > > > > > > 416-588-0269
> > > > > > > > > <http://www.leap.com/>
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > <PublicDisplayOfPossibleConsensus-20180510.xlsx>
> > > > > <PublicDisplayOfPossibleConsensus-Summary-20180510.pdf>
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