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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>George Kirikos<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 15, 2014 6:49 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Attachments (Re: Agenda and documents for WG meeting on Monday 15 September)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">It's unclear to me how General Counsel arrived at some of his conclusions. e.g for the United States and IGO Protections, (right-most column), it was stated (with no reference/authority) that:<br>
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"The US Patent and Trademark Office is required to refuse registrations of marks that conflict with registered marks of IGOs, so no registration is possible (once the marks are identified to the USPTO by a member country of the Paris Convention). No special
protection seems to exist to bar the delegation of top- or registration of second-level domains containing the IGO names or acronyms by ICANN, a registry or registrar."<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Yet, consider the example of the mark "IEA". It's registered by the International Energy Association, an IGO according to:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">with a filing on March 20, 2002. Yet, the identical mark "IEA" was registered 2 years later (on May 4, 2004):<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">by a different entity, for "arranging and providing for the return of mortal remains to designated locations". Reviewing the documents for that application, it appears that markholder sought no special permission
from the International Energy Association, yet was not refused the mark. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I think this hinges on the meaning of "conflict", perhaps -- i.e there's no conflict if the goods and services are unrelated. So, General Counsel's analysis might be correct if it permits concurrent registrations
of unrelated goods/services for the same mark. Does that make sense? Thoughts?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm sure there are other examples out there (it took me 5 mins to find that one).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 6:23 AM, George Kirikos <<a href="mailto:icann@leap.com" target="_blank">icann@leap.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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George Kirikos:(if we're just seeing it for the first time next Monday, we won't be able to put forth meaningful comments/analysis)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank">mary.wong@icann.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Agenda and documents for WG meeting on Monday 15 September<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Please find below a proposed agenda for the upcoming WG call on Monday 15 September, which staff have suggested to our Co-Chairs but have not yet had a chance
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Review Work Plan (see attached Work Plan Extract and full Work Plan Chart on which the Extract is based; we will use the Extract to walk the WG through each proposed phase on Monday)<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Discuss outcomes of prior research (see the list on the WG wiki space at
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">For agenda item #3, we have added some documents comprising research, findings and other reports used by the original IGO-INGO PDP WG for its Final Report that
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">(1) the ICANN General Counsel’s research report to that WG from May 2013 (<a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/48347918/ICANN%20GCO%20Report%20to%20IGO%20INGO%20PDP%20WG%20May%202013.doc?version=1&modificationDate=1410554576915&api=v2" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/48347918/ICANN%20GCO%20Report%20to%20IGO%20INGO%20PDP%20WG%20May%202013.doc?version=1&modificationDate=1410554576915&api=v2</a>);
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