I also support to keep the question. Hopefully we can get a response to it as well...<div><br /></div><div>Best,</div><div>Petter<br /><br />-- <br />Petter Rindforth, LL M
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<br />Thank you<br /><br /><p>6 november 2014, Lori Schulman <lori.schulman@ascd.org> skrev:</p><blockquote type="cite"><div class="oneComWebmail-html oneComWebmail-mail">
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<p class="oneComWebmail-MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; color: #1F497D;">I support keeping the question in the letter. In my view, the more that we can frame the issue with relevant questions, the better.</span></p>
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<p class="oneComWebmail-MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;"> gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org [mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Phil Corwin<br />
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 06, 2014 1:04 PM<br />
<b>To:</b> Jim Bikoff; gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org<br />
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] PLEASE RESPOND ASAP -- Revised Draft of Letter to Council regarding GAC Communique</span></p>
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<p class="oneComWebmail-MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; color: #1F497D;">Jim:</span></p>
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<p class="oneComWebmail-MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; color: #1F497D;">It does seem that the GAC wants us to create an entirely new curative rights process for IGOs.</span></p>
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<p class="oneComWebmail-MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; color: #1F497D;">However, my sense of this WG is that its members would only go down that difficult road if it is determined that the UDRP and URS cannot be utilized by IGOs
at present, or after appropriate and accommodating modifications – and then only if we determine that IGOs possess globally recognized and active (as opposed to passive blocking) rights similar to those of trademark that could be the basis of a new CRP. Further,
this WG is established and operates per a GNSO Council resolution that directs us several times to consider amendments to the UDRP/URS.</span></p>
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<p class="oneComWebmail-MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; color: #1F497D;">So I am not ruling out the possibility of a new CRP because we have not yet reached a decision on that – but one of the points of the letter is to ask the GNSO
Council to diplomatically inform the GAC that this WG will operate in an objective and comprehensive way per its authorizing Resolution, and that we will not create a new CRP simply because the GAC desires that outcome but will do only if we determine that
it is the only means of providing a viable means of redress to IGOs and has a substantial legal basis. Therefore, I believe that sentence should remain in the letter.</span></p>
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<p class="oneComWebmail-MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; color: #1F497D;">Those are my personal views and other WG members should feel free to chime in.</span></p>
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<p class="oneComWebmail-MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; color: #1F497D;">Best, Philip
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 06, 2014 12:49 PM<br />
<b>To:</b> Phil Corwin; <a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org</a><br />
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<p class="oneComWebmail-MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">Some non-substantive comments to the revised draft letter to the Council regarding the GAC communique are attached. </span></p>
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<p class="oneComWebmail-MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">We do question the inclusion of the question on the second page that asks whether the GAC has "considered that an inability to amend the UDRP would preclude any possible change to its "Mutual Jurisdiction" provisions
to address specific sovereign immunity concerns of IGOs". It seems that the new IGO-specific curative rights mechanism GAC seeks would already address sovereign immunity concerns. Given that all IGOs have these concerns, they would presumably all opt to use
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<a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org</a> [gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org] on behalf of Petter Rindforth [petter.rindforth@fenixlegal.eu]<br />
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 06, 2014 3:45 AM<br />
<b>To:</b> George Kirikos<br />
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org</a><br />
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] PLEASE RESPOND ASAP -- Revised Draft of Letter to Council regarding GAC Communique</span><span style="color: black;"></span></p>
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<p class="oneComWebmail-MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">Good idea! (at least worth a try ;-)</span></p>
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<p class="oneComWebmail-MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">Formal question: Who will officially arrange for such invitation - ICANN Staff, GNSO Council, or??</span></p>
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<p><span style="color: black;">6 november 2014, George Kirikos <<a href="mailto:icann@leap.com" target="_blank">icann@leap.com</a>> skrev:</span></p>
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The revised draft letter looks fine to me.<br />
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On another note, I noticed that the GAC website lists all the "observers":<br />
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<a href="https://gacweb.icann.org/display/gacweb/GAC+Observers" target="_blank">https://gacweb.icann.org/display/gacweb/GAC+Observers</a><br />
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with most of their contact information. To disintermediate, perhaps we<br />
should extend an invitation to the IGO observers (there are a few<br />
non-IGOs, e.g. Red Cross) to see whether they'd join our working<br />
group?<br />
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Sincerely,<br />
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