<div dir="ltr"><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB">I wonder if it WIPO’s advice which
is causing much of the anxiety amongst the GAC and the other
IGOs?</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB">If we look at WIPO’s comments to the
working group’s initial report they were very troubling<sup>.<b><span style="font-weight:bold">1</span></b></sup> and we had a similar issue in the
Johannesburg
working group session earlier in the week.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB">From the transcript:<b><sup><span style="font-weight:bold">2 </span></sup></b></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-style:italic;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB">“Brian Beckham
for the record. I wanted to just briefly follow up on (John)’s intervention and
recall that for example, an IGO that would be potentially invoking this
mechanism is the UNHCR. So when they go and undertake humanitarian efforts for
asylum seekers, for example, they're not undertaking commercial activities that
we think of which ground common law or unregistered trademark rights.”
</span></font></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB">Here Brian is again presenting a
misleading narrative, Brian is, or should be, as head of the Internet dispute
resolution section at WIPO an informed advisor. Other IGOs, the GAC and the
Internet community as whole rely on the advice they receive from WIPO, it
therefore needs to be considered, unbiased and informed.
</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB">Brian’s latest statement shows a
fundamental misunderstanding of trademark law and results in unwarranted
concerns. </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB">For the avoidance of
doubt:</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB">1.) The only requirement for
the acquisition of trademark rights is to be the first user of the mark in
commerce somewhere, for a particular good or service.
</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB">2.) Registration provides
benefits for mark holders but is not relevant here.
</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB">3.) Trademark laws do not
distinguish between the goods or services that are provided for revenue
generation or not.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB">4.) The term “use in
commerce” means the bona fide use of a mark in the ordinary course of trade, and
not made merely to reserve a right in a mark.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB">5.) Under US law
for example, a service mark shall be deemed to be in use in commerce on
services, when it is used or displayed in the sale or advertising of services
and the services are rendered in commerce.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB">6.) UNHCR is a well known
organization providing a service to refugees.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB">We can therefore safely say UNHCR
have defensible rights in their acronym and these rights are sufficient for
standing under UDRP. </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB">Whilst not necessary, but often
helpful, we can also safely say where their UNHCR mark does not already enjoy protection from an Article 6 ter listing it would also be perfectly capabable of registration. </span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB"></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB"><br></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB">I trust this will be the end of
misleading statements on these matters.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB">Best
regards,</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB">Paul.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><sup><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-weight:bold;font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB">1</span></font></sup></b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB">
<a href="https://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-igo-ingo-crp-access-initial-20jan17/msg00038.html">https://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-igo-ingo-crp-access-initial-20jan17/msg00038.html</a></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><sup><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB">2</span></font></sup><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial" lang="EN-GB">
<a href="http://schd.ws/hosted_files/icann59johannesburg2017/f8/Transcript%20INGO%20INGO%20CRP%2027%20June%20.pdf">http://schd.ws/hosted_files/icann59johannesburg2017/f8/Transcript%20INGO%20INGO%20CRP%2027%20June%20.pdf</a></span></font></p></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 5:17 PM, Paul Keating <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:paul@law.es" target="_blank">paul@law.es</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>So we are a bottoms up structure until the bottom has an idea the top does not like??<br><br>Sincerely,<div>Paul Keating, Esq.</div></div><div><div class="h5"><div><br>On Jun 29, 2017, at 6:08 PM, Phil Corwin <<a href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com" target="_blank">psc@vlaw-dc.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
<div id="m_6176176115683642719divtagdefaultwrapper" style="font-size:12pt;color:#000000;font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif" dir="ltr">
<p>Thanks Mary.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>No surprises here, unfortunately.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Best, Philip</p>
<br>
<br>
<div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%">
<div id="m_6176176115683642719divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000" face="Calibri, sans-serif"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@<wbr>icann.org</a> <<a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-igo-ingo-crp-bounces@<wbr>icann.org</a>> on behalf of Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank">mary.wong@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 29, 2017 11:30 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Gnso-igo-ingo-crp] Advice on IGOs from the GAC's Johannesburg Communique</font>
<div> </div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Dear Working Group members,</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">You may be interested to know that the GAC Communique from this meeting in Johannesburg (ICANN59) has been released:
<a href="https://gacweb.icann.org/download/attachments/27132037/GAC%20ICANN59%20Communique_Final.pdf?version=2&modificationDate=1498747877729&api=v2" style="color:rgb(5,99,193);text-decoration:underline" id="m_6176176115683642719LPlnk498042" target="_blank">
https://gacweb.icann.org/<wbr>download/attachments/27132037/<wbr>GAC%20ICANN59%20Communique_<wbr>Final.pdf?version=2&<wbr>modificationDate=<wbr>1498747877729&api=v2</a>
</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">“In respect of IGOs, the GAC advice to the Board is:</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">The GAC reiterates its Advice that IGO access to curative dispute resolution mechanism should:</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">I. be modeled on, but separate from, the existing Uniform Dispute Resolution Policy (UDRP)</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">II. provide standing based on IGOs’ status as public intergovernmental institutions, and</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">III. respect IGOs’ jurisdictional status by facilitating appeals exclusively through arbitration.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">The GAC expresses concern that a GNSO working group has indicated that it may deliver recommendations which substantially differ from GAC Advice, and calls on the ICANN Board to ensure that such recommendations adequately reflect
input and expertise provided by IGOs.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">RATIONALE</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">This Advice aligns with the view of governments that IGOs perform important public functions for citizens worldwide, and that protecting their identities in the DNS serves to minimize the potential for consumer harm.”</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thanks and cheers</span></p>
<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Mary</span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div></blockquote></div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>______________________________<wbr>_________________</span><br><span>Gnso-igo-ingo-crp mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org" target="_blank">Gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org</a></span><br><span><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-igo-ingo-crp" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/gnso-igo-ingo-crp</a></span></div></blockquote></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
Gnso-igo-ingo-crp mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:Gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org">Gnso-igo-ingo-crp@icann.org</a><br>
<a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gnso-igo-ingo-crp" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/gnso-igo-ingo-crp</a><br></blockquote></div><br></div>