[Gnso-igo-ingo] Agenda - Reconvened IGO-INGO Protections PDP Working Group (Red Cross) - 18 October 2017 @ 13:00 UTC

Wed Oct 18 07:46:59 UTC 2017

Dear Thomas, dear all, 

Thank you for Berry’s invitation and for Thomas’ helpful explanatory note.

Herewith a few suggestions in preparation for today’s discussion:

I.      Draft principles and criteria:

In line with the last ConfCall's conclusions and mindful of Thomas’ 
message, we would propose the following principles/criteria/formula for 
the definition of names and identifiers of Red Cross and Red Crescent 
organizations to be reserved:

With regard to the two international organizations within the 
International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement:

-       The full match names of the International Committee of the Red 
Cross and of the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent 
Societies – in the 6 UN languages.

(As far as feasible to accommodate DNS labels)

With regard to National Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies: 

1. Both the official and usual names of National Red Cross and Red 
Crescent Societies that are recognized as components of the International 
Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement (e.g. “American National Red Cross” – 
according to its National Charter - and “American Red Cross”; “Croix-Rouge 
du Tchad“ and “Croix-Rouge tchadienne”).

NB: There are 190 National Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies recognized 
within the Movement and admitted as members of the International 
Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies to date – there is one 
additional National Society currently pending recognition and admission 
and which application for recognition is under examination. This would 
bring the total of National Societies to 191.

2. The official and usual names of National Societies in the national 
language(s) and script(s) of their national State (e.g. Croix-Rouge 
française), as well as in English for National Societies in countries 
using a non-Latin script (“Russian Red Cross” / Российский Красный Крест).
NB: This is, we understand, Thomas' new proposal. Please note that this 
represents a departure from the GAC’s consistent past advice that all 
National Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies’ names be protected/reserved 
in English (without exception and in addition to the individual National 
Society’s name in the latter’s national language[s] and script[s]). I 
believe that the initial thought was also that, should a fraudster intend, 
in the event of a disaster occurring in country XYZ, to register the name 
National Society XYZ as a second level domain name with fraudulent 
intentions, s/he would be most likely to do so in English for maximum 
impact.
3. The official and usual names of National Societies with and without 
hyphens separating the words (e.g. British Red Cross and 
British-Red-Cross).
This is proposed to be limited for National Societies’ names in latin 
script (English, French, Spanish, German, Italian, Portuguese, Flemish, 
Dutch, etc.);
4. Where relevant to do so, with and without the article “The” (e.g. 
“American National Red Cross” and the “The American National Red Cross; 
“American Red Cross” and “The American Red Cross);
        5. Where relevant to do so, with and without the designation or 
word “Society” (“British Red Cross” and “British Red Cross Society”; 
“Afghan Red Crescent” and “Afghan Red Crescent Society”; “Croix-Rouge 
française” and “Société Nationale de la Croix-Rouge française”);
        6. For names in latin script and where pertinent to do so, with 
the adjective indicating national affiliation and with the name of the 
State (“Croix-Rouge tchadienne” and “Croix-Rouge du Tchad“; "Azerbaijan 
Red Crescent", "Red Crescent of Azerbaijan").
II.     We take good note of the four column list proposed by Thomas and 
welcome the opportunity to discuss this during today's ConfCall. Might a 
simpler solution not be to complete the current list/table with three 
columns - to include 1) numbering, 2) designations for protection, 2) 
their associated DNA label? Would this not allow for an easier subsequent 
handling?

III.    We take note also of Thomas’ suggested principle that the Scope of 
the identifiers be only that of Scope 2 as defined in the original PDP 
excluding acronyms and other designations not already adopted by the Board 
(ex. icrc. cicr, mkkk, ifrc, ficr, mfkk, redstarofdavid, magendavidadom).

We would still appreciate a clarification of the GNSO WG’s views on the 
implications of that exclusion, especially concerning

§       The acronyms of the international Red Cross and Red Crescent 
organizations (which the GAC had advised, in its Durban Communiqué (18 
July 2013), be placed under the same cost neutral mechanisms to be worked 
out for the protection of acronyms of IGO's);
§       Names already included by the Board in the list of reserved names 
such as “magen david adom”, “red star of david”, but also “international 
red cross and red crescent movement” in the 6 UN languages (that is the 
Statutory name endorsed by the States), etc.

Does this mean that the Board will be expected to make its own final 
determination regarding the above?

IV.     Lastly, and mindful that the time allocated for today’s discussion 
may not suffice, there are two issues on which the WG’s thoughts would be 
appreciated:

-       The first is whether the WG’s upcoming recommendations to the GNSO 
Council should not consider to expressly recommend that the Red Cross and 
Red Crescent names/identifiers be included on a “modified reserved names 
list” (which I believe is the correct term) in order to preserve the 
prerogative of concerned Red Cross and Red Crescent organizations to 
register their own names, should they require to do so in the future. This 
has, as many WG members will recall been raised in the past (including 
during the Copenhagen session). Should this not form a part pf the WG’s 
consideration and conclusion?

-       The second question is if the Group could give some time of 
reflection to a point also already addressed in Copenhagen and raised I 
believe by Chuck during the last call – namely regarding a criteria and an 
eventual mechanism to allow National Societies to challenge and object to 
the registration of confusingly similar names.

With thanks and looking forward to our conversation later today.

Kind regards,

Stéphane

Stéphane J. Hankins
Legal adviser
Cooperation and Coordination within the Movement
International Committee of the Red Cross
Tel (Prof.):++41 22 730 24 19

From:   "Berry Cobb" <mail at berrycobb.com>
To:     <gnso-igo-ingo at icann.org>
Date:   17.10.2017 14:57
Subject:        [Gnso-igo-ingo] Agenda - Reconvened IGO-INGO Protections 
PDP     Working Group (Red Cross) - 18 October 2017 @ 13:00 UTC
Sent by:        gnso-igo-ingo-bounces at icann.org

Dear all,

Please find below the proposed agenda for the next Working Group call 
(scheduled for Wednesday 18 October at 13:00 UTC).  As a part of the 
agenda review, please also review the attached document from Thomas that 
expands on planned discussions about the next steps for protections of 
ICRC identifiers.

Agenda:
(0) Roll call, Agenda bash and SOI Updates
(1) Review Original PDP WG recommendation on scope of Red Cross Society 
identifiers to receive protection and history for how they are currently 
reserved
(2) Review red-line list of DNS labels as provided by the advisors of the 
ICRC 
(3) Discuss possible formula to determine which identifiers will receive 
protection and formulate principles to define the policy
(4) ICANN 60 Preparations

Thank you 

B

Berry A. Cobb
720.839.5735
mail at berrycobb.com
@berrycobb
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