<div dir="ltr">Thanks for reconsidering.  <div><br></div><div>No intent to inflame, so please don't shoot the messenger - it's just what happened in the previous PDP, and why :)<div><div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial;font-size:13.6364px"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial;font-size:13.6364px">Sincerely,</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><font><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000F8" style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Jay Chapman</span><b><br></b></font><br><b><font color="#000000" style="font-size:10pt"><a href="http://www.digimedia.com" target="_blank"><img src="https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=0B_q-LxE2k9bPcVNkeDNXb2J6d0E&revid=0B_q-LxE2k9bPdHVhYmhxSE54QlkrR29QV0tNZk9tSk9pWm9JPQ" width="96" height="28"></a></font></b></font></font></span></span></span></span></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial">102 S. Broadway, #200 - Edmond, OK 73034</span><br></div><div dir="ltr"><span style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><font><font face="Arial"><font style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)" color="#0000FF"><a href="mailto:jay@digimedia.com" target="_blank">jay@digimedia.com</a></font><font color="#000000" style="font-size:10pt"> - </font></font></font></span></span></span></span></span><span style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-inden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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">I also have issues with these changes, in particular this addition</span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">:<i>
<span style="color:black">“ but its investigation led to the consensus conclusion that some IGOs had sucessfully utilized the existing rights protection mechanisms such as the UDRP”
</span></i></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">which even if true as part of the previous PDP process (I don’t know) is not the main conclusion of that process, and even if years ago one IGOs used the UDRP a couple
 of times it is clearly is anecdotal and probably an uninformed decision of the IGO.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Having this text in is highly inflammatory and we have been through these discussions early on in our group.  The reason we have the this process is because most
 IGOs have not and cannot use a process which potentially requires them to waive immunities.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> gnso-igo-wt <<a href="mailto:gnso-igo-wt-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-igo-wt-bounces@icann.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>BECKHAM Brian via gnso-igo-wt<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 14 September, 2021 3:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-igo-wt@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-igo-wt@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-igo-wt] Final Draft Recommendations #1 - #6<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">These suggestions are problematic, and it would be better if we can stick to the text that we have been working off of (I realize Jay submitted them earlier, but
 they have not been added to drafts, nor discussed).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">As an example, the proposed language of “some” and “may” flies in the face of the longstanding GAC and IGO request for curative (let alone preventative, as David
 reminded us yesterday) protection that is the central task of this group.  <u></u>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> gnso-igo-wt <<a href="mailto:gnso-igo-wt-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-igo-wt-bounces@icann.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jay Chapman via gnso-igo-wt<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 14, 2021 3:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Chris Disspain <<a href="mailto:chris@disspain.uk" target="_blank">chris@disspain.uk</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-igo-wt@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-igo-wt@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gnso-igo-wt] Final Draft Recommendations #1 - #6<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="gmail-m_-2837068449778665932gmail-p1" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span class="gmail-m_-2837068449778665932gmail-s1"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(37,37,37)">As to the wraparound, I submit again the following suggestions (underlined):</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(37,37,37)"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span class="gmail-m_-2837068449778665932gmail-s1"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(37,37,37)">-First sentence of the Preamble:  </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(37,37,37)"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span class="gmail-m_-2837068449778665932gmail-s1"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(37,37,37)">"This Initial Report is
</span></span><span class="gmail-m_-2837068449778665932gmail-s2"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(37,37,37)">the latest</span></span><span class="gmail-m_-2837068449778665932gmail-s1"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(37,37,37)"> work that has been undertaken
 by the ICANN community to </span></span><span class="gmail-m_-2837068449778665932gmail-s2"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(37,37,37)">consider and</span></span><span class="gmail-m_-2837068449778665932gmail-s1"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(37,37,37)">
 facilitate, </span></span><span class="gmail-m_-2837068449778665932gmail-s2"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(37,37,37)">where appropriate</span></span><span class="gmail-m_-2837068449778665932gmail-s1"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(37,37,37)">, the protection
 of IGO identifiers in the domain name system (DNS)."</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(37,37,37)"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span class="gmail-m_-2837068449778665932gmail-s1"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(37,37,37)">-Paragraph just prior to "1.2 Preliminary Recommendations":</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(37,37,37)"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span class="gmail-m_-2837068449778665932gmail-s1"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">"During the GNSO Council’s deliberations over the Final Report from the IGO-INGO Access to Curative Rights PDP, concerns were expressed as to whether Recommendation
 #5 will require a substantive modification to the UDRP and URS as well as result in a potential reduction of the existing level of curative protections currently available to IGOs – such as they are, i.e., at present IGOs must,
</span></span><span class="gmail-m_-2837068449778665932gmail-s2"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">like every UDRP complainant</span></span><span class="gmail-m_-2837068449778665932gmail-s1"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">, agree to the
</span></span><span class="gmail-m_-2837068449778665932gmail-s2"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">“mutual jurisdiction provision”</span></span><span class="gmail-m_-2837068449778665932gmail-s1"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"> to be eligible
 to file a UDRP or URS case  (the PDP had been chartered to determine <i>“whether to amend the UDRP and URS to allow access to and use of these mechanisms by IGOs and INGOs,
</i></span></span><span class="gmail-m_-2837068449778665932gmail-s2"><i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">and, if so in what respects
</span></i></span><span class="gmail-m_-2837068449778665932gmail-s1"><i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">or whether a separate, narrowly-tailored dispute resolution procedure at the second level modeled on the UDRP and URS that takes into account the
 particular needs and specific circumstances of IGOs and INGOs should be developed</span></i></span><span class="gmail-m_-2837068449778665932gmail-s2"><i><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">,” but its investigation led to the consensus conclusion that
 some IGOs had sucessfully utilized the existing rights protection mechanisms such as the UDRP, and as such, it did not amend the UDRP or URS, and thus further determined there was no need for new RPMs specifically for IGOs.  The GNSO Council approved these
 consensus determinations.”</span></i></span><span class="gmail-m_-2837068449778665932gmail-s2"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">)</span></span><span class="gmail-m_-2837068449778665932gmail-s1"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">. As a result,
 the Council decided that additional policy work needed to be done on the specific issue that Recommendation #5 had been intended to resolve."</span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">-"2 Preliminary Recommendations", second paragraph, beginning of first sentence:</span><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Red line attached.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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 preliminary recommendations and various options under consideration that will go into the Initial Report. We hope we have managed to capture all the suggestions, agreements and changes discussed on the call today. We have also accepted all but one of Alexandra’s
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 <</span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="mailto:Alexandra.EXCOFFIER-NOSOV@oecd.org" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Alexandra.EXCOFFIER-NOSOV@oecd.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, September 13, 2021 at 9:40 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>Mary Wong <</span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">mary.wong@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"</span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="mailto:gnso-igo-wt@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">gnso-igo-wt@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">" <</span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="mailto:gnso-igo-wt@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">gnso-igo-wt@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[Ext] RE: [gnso-igo-wt] FOR DISCUSSION: Updated draft preliminary recommendations and options</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Rec 3 -- suggest that “In relation to the UDRP/URS” be bolded and underline to show this is the same text for each para for the
 respective RPM (stylistic suggestion)</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Rec 4.ii -- suggest “it agrees” instead of “they agree”</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Rec 4.ii -- suggest moving the entire “The request shall include information regarding the applicable arbitral rules…” sentence
 to a footnote as we really want public comment on the main thrust of the recommendation.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Rec 4.iii -- suggest “agreed to arbitration” should be “filed a request for/notice of arbitration” (or equivalent) to match the
 text of Rec 4.iv</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Rec 4.iv -- suggest to delete “If the UDRP provider receives notice that an arbitration proceeding has been initiated, it shall
 promptly inform both parties and the relevant registrar.” Because Rec 4.iii (and the UDRP) directs the applicable notice to the registrar, not the UDRP provider</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Rec 4.v and vi -- suggest adding something like “In lieu of mutual agreement to arbitration as described in 4,I and 4.ii, where
 the registrant instead initiates…” for clarity</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Rec 4.v.option 1 -- is “jurisdiction over” the right terminology?  Could be discussed as lack of jurisdiction is a broader concept
 than lack of jurisdiction due to immunities.  A priori, ok with both</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Rec 4.v option 2 -- footnote 9 should appear at iii or iv</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Rec 4.v option 2 -- should add notice to the UDRP provider (see note 5 above)</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Rec
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">In addition, the new footnote 8 does not match the recommendations, since it provides that the registrant can ask for arbitration at any time during the judicial
 process, while the recommendation only allows this at the conclusion of the process.  Personally, my preference would be for the footnote, but that means that the recommendations should be modified.  Also the footnote should indicate the options in their order
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> gnso-igo-wt <</span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="mailto:gnso-igo-wt-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">gnso-igo-wt-bounces@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">> <b>On
 Behalf Of </b>Mary Wong via gnso-igo-wt<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 09 September, 2021 9:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> </span><span lang="EN-US"><a href="mailto:gnso-igo-wt@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">gnso-igo-wt@icann.org</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [gnso-igo-wt] FOR DISCUSSION: Updated draft preliminary recommendations and options<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Please find attached a clean, updated version of the draft preliminary recommendations that this group is attempting to finalize for Public Comment next week,
 as well as the URS process flow chart that was displayed during Tuesday’s call. We hope the revised text captures the agreements and feedback from this past Tuesday’s call. As previously, to avoid “competing” texts, please do not send a redline/markup of the
 document; instead, please feel free to post comments and questions to this list ahead of Monday’s call.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">As you review the updated text, staff hopes that the following notes are helpful:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">We have combined the Mutual Jurisdiction exemption for the UDRP and URS into a single recommendation (which is now Recommendation
 #3).<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">We have attempted to highlight the options under consideration even more by labeling them Option 1 and Option 2 (for the UDRP
 and URS, in what is now Recommendation #4 & #5, respectively.) We have also used yellow highlights in these square-bracketed options to indicate the differences between the two options in question.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">All other changes, updates and additions have been indicated via Comments balloons.<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">We have clarified that the question regarding applicable law is not an option to mutual agreement but a possible additional step
 (in what is now Recommendation #6.)<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">For the URS process flow chart, we plan on making any necessary updates once the EPDP team has agreed on the text of the recommendations, prior to insertion into
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Staff is currently updating the draft Initial Report to reflect the latest changes and agreements. We will do our best to circulate an updated version as soon
 as feasible, prior to Monday’s call.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Thanks and cheers<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Steve, Berry & Mary<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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