[Gnso-newgtld-wg] Mp3, Attendance & AC Chat for New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Working Group on Monday, 28 November 2016 at 15:00 UTC

Tue Nov 29 05:22:33 UTC 2016

Dear All,

Please find the attendance of the call attached to this email and the MP3 recording below for the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Working Group call held on Monday, 28 November 2016 at 15:00 UTC. Attendance of the calls is also posted on the agenda wiki page:

MP3: http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-new-gtld-subsequent-28nov16-en.mp3
 <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-new-gtld-subsequent-08sep16-en.mp3>

The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page:

http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#nov>

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Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/EJPDAw

Thank you.

Kind regards,

Michelle

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Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday, 28 November 2016

 Michelle DeSmyter:Dear All, Welcome to the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Working Group call on Monday, 28 November 2016 at 15:00 UTC.
  Michelle DeSmyter:Agenda meeting page: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_EJPDAw&d=DgIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=WZ2pK-lfiPi3jjk4twIgf-eYsIGsIG-PA4mM-gnNWds&s=Joj56G7EUueOjetRTIGqXsbN9Mg82aHVlxzwD3E-BoE&e=
  Michael Flemming:Hi Steve
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):hi all
  Annebeth Lange, ccNSO:Hello from Norway, everyone!
  Michelle DeSmyter:Hello, welcome!!
  Amr Elsadr:hvordan går det, Annebeth? Your AC room mic is not muted. ;-)
  Annebeth Lange, ccNSO:I am fine, is it ok now?
  Amr Elsadr:Yup.
  kavouss arasteh:HIAll
  Jorge Cancio (GAC Switzerland):Hi all
  Harold Arcos:Hi all from sunny Venezuela
  kavouss arasteh:Please kindly speak slowly and clearly separate sylabus one from another tks
  kavouss arasteh:speak slowly
  Jorge Cancio (GAC Switzerland):About the Hyderabad Meeting, I would like to once again thank Jeff and Avri for coming to the GAC session on new gTLDs, where we had a good discussion. See the transcript under https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__schd.ws_hosted-5Ffiles_icann572016_f1_I57-2520HYD-5FSat05Nov2016-2DNew-2520gTLDs-2520-2D-2520Issues-2520for-2520Subsequent-2520Rounds-2Den.pdf&d=DgIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=WZ2pK-lfiPi3jjk4twIgf-eYsIGsIG-PA4mM-gnNWds&s=vNxeaKJgejvqX2oZpW5_Bu82GJCIi8xF3nRv0DjL35k&e=
  Vanda:hi sorry to be late
  Emily Barabas:Transcript from HYD meeting: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__schd.ws_hosted-5Ffiles_icann572016_fa_Transcript-2520New-2520gTLD-2520Sub-2520Pro-2520Hyderabad-252003-2520Nov-25202016.pdf&d=DgIFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=WZ2pK-lfiPi3jjk4twIgf-eYsIGsIG-PA4mM-gnNWds&s=BkjSXDWlkOvDfO_Lj3qV2IIDs2m7JrQlQOKOn5GtS98&e=
  Christa Taylor:I don't have anything special to add; call will get everyone up to speed; Had some great insight
  Vaibhav Aggarwal:hi Guys
  Christa Taylor:nope
  Martin Sutton:Hi Jeff, I have a lot of background noise here so will type - how will the ICANN57 session(s) feed back into the working group work? Will this be up to the individual tracks or into the CC1 review (or both)?
  Christa Taylor:For the record it was Alice Munyua
  Christa Taylor:Despite trying, we didn't connect while in Hyderabad
  Christa Taylor:With other members re:  Applicant Support
  Annebeth Lange, ccNSO:It will be very helpful if everyone writes their stakeholdergroup after their name
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):it's 0212 here in AU  so not suprised Tom Dale is an apology :-)
  Jorge Cancio (GAC Switzerland):I would very much appreciate this group, through the best appropriate means, to take on the inputs made during the mentioned GAC session, which are  reflected in the transcript of it
  Mary Wong:As of 22 November, there were 4 self-identified GAC members who are Members of this WG, not including the GAC Secretariat or individuals who are GAC members/repesentatives but did not put down a GAC affiliation. There are also several GAC members who signed up as Observers to this WG.
  Jorge Cancio (GAC Switzerland):Good points from Donna - I feel we could build on the experiences had in Helsinki and Hyderabad and structure the meetings in an even more interactive bilateral sessions
  Annebeth Lange, ccNSO:And don't forget that the ccNSO has strong opinions on country & territory names as well
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):noted  Jorge can the link to the transcript  go the the list  *indeed any of the links put here in chat), as for me at least  using an android  tablet   no links are 'live'
  Mary Wong:Alice Munyua and Olga Cavalli are signed up as Observers to this WG (again, as of 22 Nov).
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Indeed they do Annabeth :-)
  Emily Barabas:Kavouss, would you mind typing the names of these people you mentioned so that I can add them to the notes?
  Donna Austin, Neustar:Annebeth, I think on geographic names I think it will be very important to have a moderated session with all the different work efforts related to geographic names.
  Vanda:Emily Mary already wrote the names above
  Annebeth Lange, ccNSO:I agree, Donna.
  Emily Barabas:thanks
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Agreed Donna  and cearly not ust for GAC  ;-)
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):++  Avri
  Vanda:guess we alla gree with Avri
  Phil Buckingham:sorry I am late .  Michael and I  are looking forward to our WT2  call tonite at 20.00  UTC  . Hope you can make it . Newcomers always  welcome.   It is on  Reserved Names. at the Top Level
  Harold Arcos:Yes @Vanda  +1 Avri
  kavouss arasteh:For ,IGO and NIGO,Jorgge was very active in GAC
  Michael Flemming:Person on top is always first
  Jorge Cancio (GAC Switzerland):old hand
  Michael Flemming:I believe
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):+++  Annabeth that is essential
  Alan Greenberg:Indeed.
  Annebeth Lange, ccNSO:I agree with Jorge on the country & territory names. There are quite a lot of views available from the last round that could be useful to "re-use".
  Greg Shatan:Adobe Connect on tablet does not put the list of hands in chronological order.
  Michael Flemming:Aaah
  Michael Flemming:Thats the difference.
  Karen Day:Sorry, not sure why mic not working.
  Karen Day:Next WT3 meeting will be 12/6
  Vaibhav Aggarwal:ha ha ha
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):eeek!!
  Steve Chan:The next full group meeting is scheduled for Monday, 5 Dec at 2000UTC
  Karen Day:did an invite go out?
  Steve Chan:The meeting is currently scheduled for 90 minutes - I just wanted to confirm.
  Harold Arcos:For next full group meeting I will send my apologies in advance, I will attend IGF in México
  kavouss arasteh:Do we really need 90 mints?
  Steve Chan:@Karen, yes it did. Please let us know if you cannot find it.
  Annebeth Lange, ccNSO:I am sorry, I have to leave. Goodbye.
  Jorge Cancio (GAC Switzerland):Agree with Greg - objections and comments should also be possible in principle
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):that makes sense to me as well
  Kiran Malancharuvil (IPC):You're still on
  Vanda:+ 1 cheryl. makes sense
  Vanda:based on our survey in this region, where majority would like to apply, a constant open opportunity to apply makes more sens for this region
  Alexander Schubert:Can't be 100% FCFS - that would result in "gTLD-snapping" (as in domain catching in the 2nd round).
  Jorge Cancio (GAC Switzerland):as these are scarce ressources and each string is unique, comments, objections and concurrent applications should be made possible
  Alexander Schubert:And some of the portfolio applicants are EXPERTS in "domain snapping" ....
  Vanda:i need to leave to a meeting outside the office. sorry. see you next week.
  Harold Arcos:See you @Vanda, take care
  Martin Sutton:What rationale was used for the 2012 round? Was a continuous process considered? If so, is there any historic 'pros & cons' we can review?
  Jorge Cancio (GAC Switzerland):good point Martin
  Jorge Cancio (GAC Switzerland):if rounds were continuous and in predictable timeframes the potential problem would be mitigated
  Harold Arcos:"if rounds were continuous and in predictable timeframes,,,,," +1
  Kurt Pritz:@ Martin: Rationale for rounds: allow those not inside the ICANN circle a chance to catch up with those that are in the inner circle and could file the application on day 1; provide a tool for contention resolution; encourage applicants to carefully complete the application and not rush it out; to limit the number of applications in some way; the policy was to have a subsequent round in a year so as not to disadvantage those who did not make the first round
  Christa Taylor:yes can hear you
  Martin Sutton:@Kurt: thanks. So based on your first point re 'inner circle' it could be argued that there is still insufficient awareness of new gTLDs and the FCFS approach would disadvantage outsiders. The 2012 round certainly limited the proceesing and was not rushed :-). I'll ignore the last point....
  Greg Shatan:Instead of "rounds", with space in between, we could have a new round open up when the previous one closed.  Perhaps that's what meant by "continuous rounds."
  kavouss arasteh:between roundsGrec, we need some interval
  Phil Buckingham: + 1  Alan - this wlll never  be perfect  - however we  long we take.  There are  many parts  that are  good / reusable.
  Alan Greenberg:@Phil, yes, but if we have such a large number of issues in the future, we will have to rethink again.
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Good to have got through this much Avri  Thx...
  Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO):Thx everyone   talk again soon Bye
  Katrin Ohlmer:bye, everybody.
  Harold Arcos:Thanks everyone
  Vaibhav Aggarwal:thanks team
  Katrin Ohlmer:and thank you all of course.

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