[Gnso-newgtld-wg] [Gnso-newgtld-lead] - Time Shift Analysis
Tom Dale
tom at acig.com.au
Fri Oct 28 05:24:24 UTC 2016
No need to apologise. I always wanted to meet a Time Lord.
Sent from my iPhone
On 28 Oct. 2016, at 4:08 pm, Steve Chan <steve.chan at icann.org<mailto:steve.chan at icann.org>> wrote:
Well, it was bound to happen – with so many different email list available for this WG, someone was going to send a message to the wrong address. Unfortunately, it was me! However, I think it’s beneficial to get responses from so many different voices, so perhaps it’s a good mistake. For those considering weighing in, I’ll provide a bit of additional context. The default is to adjust all GNSO working group schedules when daylight savings adjustments having taken place in the majority of places where it’s observed, which for this year, will be 6 November. The change results in the UTC times being adjusted +1 hour (e.g., 0300 UTC becomes 0400 UTC, 1500UTC becomes 1600 UTC, etc.). If the region you’re in observes daylight savings, this would mean the local time for the meeting would remain unchanged (e.g., a meeting at 12:00 pm would continue to be at 12:00 pm). Of course, not all countries or regions observe daylight savings, which is why this debate was taking place within the leadership team.
The main concern with this WG being an outlier to following this practice is that we increase the risk of conflicts with other GNSO meetings (including Stakeholder and Constituency meetings potentially). As a result, the staff recommendation has been, and remains, to follow the practice that other WGs are following. However, it is ultimately up to WG and its leadership to make the decision.
Please feel free to give me a hard time for my inadequate email skills in Hyderabad :(
Best,
Steve
From: <gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of Cecilia Smith <Cecilia.Smith at fox.com<mailto:Cecilia.Smith at fox.com>>
Date: Thursday, October 27, 2016 at 8:12 PM
To: Karen Day <Karen.Day at sas.com<mailto:Karen.Day at sas.com>>, Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr at gmail.com<mailto:langdonorr at gmail.com>>
Cc: "gnso-newgtld-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg at icann.org>" <gnso-newgtld-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg at icann.org>>
Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] [Gnso-newgtld-lead] - Time Shift Analysis
+1
From: <gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of Karen Day <Karen.Day at sas.com<mailto:Karen.Day at sas.com>>
Date: Thursday, October 27, 2016 at 7:09 PM
To: Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr at gmail.com<mailto:langdonorr at gmail.com>>
Cc: "gnso-newgtld-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg at icann.org>" <gnso-newgtld-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg at icann.org>>
Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] [Gnso-newgtld-lead] - Time Shift Analysis
I will add my voice to the "do not adjust UTC" chorus here.
Best,
Karen
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On Oct 27, 2016, at 9:58 PM, Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr at gmail.com<mailto:langdonorr at gmail.com>> wrote:
No Surprise I support Avri as well *after all* Like Avri I have been also saying exactly this for years now ;-)
Anyway I am building my movement getting more support today from other participants in other meetings So if you keep hearing "just stick to UTC" a lot more in the near future this is why...
Cheryl Langdon-Orr ... (CLO)
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On 28 October 2016 at 07:06, theo geurts <gtheo at xs4all.nl<mailto:gtheo at xs4all.nl>> wrote:
100% with Avri on this.
UTC is a time saver ;)
Theo
On 27-10-2016 21:30, avri doria wrote:
Hi,
I am in favor of just sticking with UTC and not bothering with the
complexities of who is going in or out of DST at any time. I suggest
that for all WGs. and will suggest it for any group I am in.
avri
On 27-Oct-16 15:07, Steve Chan wrote:
Hello All,
I did some basic analysis to try and understand the impact of staying
on the same UTC time versus moving 1 hour forward on UTC (e.g., the
1500 UTC would be 1600 UTC). I’d say it’s inconclusive and at least to
me, not terribly surprising – it helps in some cases and hurts in
others. When there are early meetings, adding an hour to the UTC helps
and when it’s evening or middle of the night, it generally makes
things worse. Unfortunately, I don’t think this gives us a clear path
forward, but it at least lets us see how it affects this particular WG
in certain regions of the world. I’ve highlighted the most difficult
meetings times in red.
Note, this analysis would be as of 7 November, so to the extent that
timeanddate.com<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__timeanddate.com&d=DQMFAg&c=uw6TLu4hwhHdiGJOgwcWD4AjKQx6zvFcGEsbfiY9-EI&r=Cj2fRMHQkFqo4RUcEAISjMwswofq8qtY6Gpyb2xbA0M&m=v8A5QSKtxni0dyzl83A9QOTKz9mqFmqdAY9sBq5nIjM&s=WIx_fSqTFTcnJACv5XYRtQvOU3iOTDrBedrgNj1gBTI&e=> accurately captures what regions observe daylight
savings, that factor should be taken into account.
Best,
Steve
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