[Gnso-newgtld-wg] Reminder regarding Expected Standards of Behavior

Aslam Mohamed aslam at rnaip.com
Sat Oct 14 04:06:34 UTC 2017 

ICANN’s primary source of funding comes from fees it collects from gTLD registries and registrars. Therefore, ICANN’s financial stability is entirely dependent on the registration of domain names. When it comes to survival how many are ready to stick their neck out for an ideal?

Public interest and all that is fine in theory but eventually the one who pays the piper calls the tune. The challenge which the expected standards tried to articulate is for every participant and stakeholder to overcome lobby power.

So tossing the question to the Board I don’t agree. The responsibility is universal.

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On Oct 13, 2017, at 11:43 PM, Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k at gmail.com<mailto:seeburn.k at gmail.com>> wrote:

To the point Alan. +1

On Oct 14, 2017, at 06:24, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca<mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>> wrote:

There is no doubt that most people go into discussions hoping to achieve some end, but often is also a desire to achieve SOME end and to get there compromises may need to be made.

The Board is the only GROUP that is charged with balancing the issues of all stakeholders. But multistakeholder discussions may be able to achieve that end (to be ratified by the Board) if the powers and ability to invest time and effort are balanced. In the absence of such balance, or if parties are not willing to find common ground, then we can have unbalanced decisions or stalemate.

Alan

At 13/10/2017 01:06 PM, Aikman-Scalese, Anne wrote:

Thanks James.  This is a very thoughtful response.  I agree that everyone participating has some interest in relation to point of view.  It strikes me that it is primarily the Board of Directors, in their fiduciary capacity that must act “in the overall best interest of Internet users and the stability and security of the Internet’s system of unique identifiers”, irrespective of personal interests and the interests of any entity with which they are affiliated.

This phrase in the Code of Conduct actually strikes me as a pretty good “short form” definition for the “Global Public Interest”, something we are always trying to grasp.

Anne


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From: James M. Bladel [ mailto:jbladel at godaddy.com]
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Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Reminder regarding Expected Standards of Behavior

Hi Anne -

Well, candidly, I think everyone has some interest in the outcomes of Policy Development. Whether that’s direct, like those of us representing our Employers of Clients, or indirect, like those seeking to further their own career in government or academia, or to build a platform for future business development.

I guess my point is that everyone is here on behalf of an interest, even if it is theirs personally. And this is the lens through which we view the “overall best interests of Internet users.” I may focus on the desire of an Internet user / domain registrant to launch a business or blog in a frictionless environment, unencumbered by confusing rules and regulations. Others could focus on the trust element, that users should have a reasonable level of confidence that people and organizations they are engaging with online are trustworthy and who they claim to be. Another group might want to participate online in a way that doesn’t expose them to frivolous legal risk or compromise their individual privacy.

The beautiful thing about the Internet is that all of these legitimate “overall best interests” can intersect in the same “Internet user”. We see this in companies like GoDaddy, where we want the best experience for our customers, but also want to protect them from common online scams and fraud. We see people misappropriating our name & brand, and we hear complaints from customers about their information being harvested for spam & robocalls. I try to be mindful of all these interests, and bring them to my work at ICANN.

So ultimately it is a question of balancing, rather than competing, interests. I believe that all of the either-or, black-and-white problems were solved decades ago, and we’ve now taken up permanent residence in a nebulous gray area. Not sure if this was the response you were looking for, but I hope it was helpful.

Thanks—

J.

On Oct 12, 2017, 21:00 -0500, Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman at lrrc.com<mailto:AAikman at lrrc.com>>, wrote:

Thanks James.  This is a good reminder.  Just seeking a clarification on one point:
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Would you say that PDPs are characterized by individuals acting in the overall best interests of Internet users and the security and stability of the Internet  “irrespective of personal interests and the interests of the entity to which an individual might owe their appointment”?

Wouldn’t it be a bit strange if we expected representatives of  various entities that have a financial stake in the GNSO policy process to take positions and make contributions counter to the interests of their employers when participating in PDPs?   (Honestly interested in your candid thoughts on this.)

Thank you,
Anne


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From: gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces at icann.org> [ mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Terri Agnew
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Subject: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Reminder regarding Expected Standards of Behavior

Sent on behalf of the GNSO Council leadership team

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Dear Colleagues -

Several recent interactions on PDP working group calls and mailing lists have been referred to the GNSO Chairs (Heather, Donna, and I).  After review, our level of concern is such that we felt a refresher on ICANN's Expected Standards of Behavior was warranted.  A link to this document is provided below, but in general terms we are asking all participants in PDP working groups to elevate the level of discourse on calls and mailing lists to reflect a respectful and professional environment for our work.

With this in mind, don’t attack fellow volunteers personally, or question their motives, or presume to know their positions without giving them a chance to present it.  Humor (especially sarcasm) doesn’t go over well in emails or AC chat sessions, and usually doesn’t translate at all.  Refrain from escalating or retaliating to negative comments.  And, above all, remember that our shared objective is not to “win” on any given issue, but to seek out and build upon areas of common understanding.

The Expected Standards of Behavior can be found here:  https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-standards-2012-05-15-en<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resources_pages_expected-2Dstandards-2D2012-2D05-2D15-2Den&d=DwMGaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=CwipU91YB6EkpFXK9ynnT_QUef4yC5p7jpsDm8cU97g&m=nLTnlCjpaKa0PAoZ3Oo9Hth_qedPM7PZZR9XOAEmRW8&s=rifMmlUtCDfJQ-7waiDNprOF9hRGXjwUtK_MFiJDj4g&e=> .  I know we’re all accustomed to just “click through” this text when joining a meeting, but I’m now asking everyone take a minute to two to review it again.

Thank you for your help with this matter.

J.

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James Bladel
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