[Gnso-newgtld-wg] Reminder of Meetings this Week / Panama Schedule

Mon Jun 11 22:25:12 UTC 2018

It's contentious because the Board decision was made in complete 'top-down'
fashion.  Not only without real community input, but also actually CONTRARY
to the GNSO policy and AGB which *allowed* closed generics.  No public
interest has ever been identified for treating TLDs different than generic
.com domains, for example.

Mike Rodenbaugh
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On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 2:46 PM, lists at christopherwilkinson.eu Wilkinson <
lists at christopherwilkinson.eu> wrote:

> Good eveniong:
>
> > this is one of the most contentious issues ...
>
> In what respect? THE Board decision on the last round seems to me to be
> quite enough.
>
> 1.  If the applicant has an uncontested right to a name, then Okay, but I
> fail to see what the business model or other advantages might be.
>
> 2.  If the application is for a Closed TLD on the basis of a name
> (dictionary, Geographical or other) to which the applicant has NO prior
> right, then NO.
>
>
> CW
>
>
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>
> El 11 de junio de 2018 a las 22:58 Jim Prendergast <jim at GALWAYSG.COM>
> escribió:
>
> Ok – that does help – thanks
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman at comlaude.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, June 11, 2018 4:39 PM
> *To:* Jim Prendergast <jim at GALWAYSG.COM>; gnso-newgtld-wg at icann.org
> *Cc:* Drazek, Keith <kdrazek at verisign.com>
> *Subject:* RE: Reminder of Meetings this Week / Panama Schedule
>
>
>
> Thanks Jim.  Of course we will wait and incorporate all of the feedback we
> get from the public comment period.  After all that the purpose of the
> public comment period.  The purpose of the face to face meetings in Panama
> are “to develop the tools we need to complete our work”.  So the topic is
> not what IS (OR WILL BE) our position on this highly contentious issue.
> But, what are some of the tools we can use at our disposal (or that we need
> from elsewhere) to get to a final recommendation.  In other words, it is a
> strategic planning exercise, on how we as a group can get to the final
> report with a recommendation that of course incorporates all feedback.
> Another way to look at this is how can we incentivize the group to get to a
> final recommendation.
>
>
>
> I hope that helps.
>
>
>
> *Jeffrey J. Neuman*
>
> *Senior Vice President *|*Valideus USA* | *Com Laude USA*
>
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> @Jintlaw
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> *From:* Jim Prendergast <jim at GALWAYSG.COM>
> *Sent:* Monday, June 11, 2018 3:52 PM
> *To:* Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman at comlaude.com>; gnso-newgtld-wg at icann.org
> *Cc:* Drazek, Keith <kdrazek at verisign.com>
> *Subject:* RE: Reminder of Meetings this Week / Panama Schedule
>
>
>
> Thanks Jeff.
>
>
>
> Have one question on the closed generics issue.  The way you have it
> written seems to put the cart before the horse.
>
>
>
> As the draft preliminary report stated, this is one of the most
> contentious issues we have on our plate with a wide range of opinions and
> no clear indication of consensus.  And as a result, we are putting several
> questions and options out to the community for their feedback.  Feedback
> meant to inform the deliberations of this group.
>
>
>
> How does this group “move towards a final proposal” in a few weeks’ time
> without waiting for the feedback we are asking for?   I fear that if we did
> that, it sends a terrible signal to the broader community that while we are
> asking for their feedback, we are not really interested in it and are
> moving on without it.
>
>
>
> *From:* Gnso-newgtld-wg <gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces at icann.org> *On Behalf Of
> *Jeff Neuman
> *Sent:* Monday, June 11, 2018 3:06 PM
> *To:* gnso-newgtld-wg at icann.org
> *Cc:* Drazek, Keith <kdrazek at verisign.com>
> *Subject:* [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Reminder of Meetings this Week / Panama
> Schedule
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear SubPro WG Members and Observers,
>
>
>
> First, we wanted to remind you that this week we will have * 2 Full
> Working Group *calls and one call the week of June 18th to finalize all
> of the materials for the Preliminary Report*.   *The calls are at:
>
>    - Tuesday, June 12:  03:00 UTC (For those in the US, that means 11:00
>    pm on the East Coast and 8:00 pm on the West Coast tonight)
>    - Thursday, June 14: 20:00 UTC
>    - Monday, June 18:  15:00 UTC
>
>
>
> Second, as you are aware, we are fast approaching ICANN 62 in Panama in
> just a few short weeks.  The entire leadership team is actively preparing
> for our scheduled 5 face to face sessions.  Those sessions are currently
> scheduled for:
>
>
>
>    - SubPro WG Work Tracks 1-4 Session 1: Monday, June 25:  9:00 – 10:15
>    (Local Panama Time)
>    - SubPro WG Work Tracks 1-4 Session 2: Monday, June 25:  10:30 – 12:00
>    (Local Panama Time)
>    - SubPro WG Work Track 5 Session 1: Monday, June 25: 15:15 – 16:45
>    (Local Panama Time)
>    - SubPro WG Work Tracks 1-4 Session 3: Thursday, June 28: 13:30 –
>    15:00 (Local Panama Time)
>    - SubPro WG Work Track 5 Session 2:  Thursday, June 28:  15:15 – 16:45
>    (Local Panama Time)
>
>
>
> The leadership team is aware that there are a number of conflicting
> sessions that have been scheduled during the times that we are scheduled to
> meet and that as a result many of you will be in a position of having to
> decide which sessions to attend.  We sincerely hope that you can attend all
> of our meetings.
>
>
>
> Because this is the Policy Forum, a meeting that is structured to further
> our policy development work, we are planning some critical interactive
> sessions that will enable us as a group to move forward with some of our
> most contentious issues.  Although the Initial Report will hopefully be out
> by the time that we are in Panama, there is still a lot of work ahead of us
> as we hit the home stretch working towards a final report.   Completion of
> our Final Report is a key gating item before the implementation work for
> the next application window for new gTLDs to begin.  As a reminder, the
> plan is to publish the Initial Report before Panama, but not start the
> Public Comment period prior to the ICANN Meeting.  We will likely start the
> comment period the week after the ICANN meeting.  We will discuss this
> again on the call tonight/tomorrow.
>
>
>
> With respect to Work Tracks 1-4, the leadership team will likely be
> finalizing the list of topics to be discussed over the next week, but those
> topics are likely to include: (a) working towards a final proposal on
> exclusive use / closed generic TLDs, (b) the use of Private Auctions to
> resolve string contention, and (c) working on deliverables expected to be
> delivered to us by the CCT Review Team.  We will likely be breaking up into
> smaller groups during the scheduled sessions to provide everyone with the
> opportunity to weigh in on these topics and to develop the tools we need to
> complete our work.  The sessions in Panama will be the only chance to do
> this in a face to face setting and will be used to decide how we move ahead.
>
>
>
> For Work Track 5, the four Co-Leaders will be reaching out to you all
> shortly on its finalized agendas.
>
>
>
> We understand that you have some difficult choices on how to prioritize
> your time at ICANN 62 and sincerely hope that you attend our sessions.
> There will be recordings, notes and transcripts from all of the meetings
> and if you are unable to attend, you will still nonetheless be expected to
> have reviewed those materials before our next meeting after ICANN 62.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Cheryl Langdon-Orr
>
> Jeff Neuman
>
> SubPro PDP Co-Chairs
>
>
>
>
>
> *Jeffrey J. Neuman*
>
> *Senior Vice President *|*Valideus USA* | *Com Laude USA*
>
> 1751 Pinnacle Drive, Suite 600
>
> Mclean, VA 22102, United States
>
> E: *jeff.neuman at valideus.com <jeff.neuman at valideus.com>* or *jeff.neuman at comlaude.com
> <jeff.neuman at comlaude.com>*
>
> T: +1.703.635.7514
>
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