[Gnso-newgtld-wg] FW: AFRALO-AFRICANN statement - ICANN 64 Kobe, Japan

Fri Apr 12 17:40:32 UTC 2019

I believe there was also a suggestion by Kathy Kleiman in Kobe that some form of triage could be carried out on all applications with a view to identifying contention sets and those could be set aside while the other applications are processed in an arrangement similar to that posed in the Neustar proposal. Kathy, I don’t want to misrepresent your idea, so please correct me if I have this wrong.

I think Kathy’s suggestion would mean that there would be a single application window, but the concept of a phased process for evaluation may still be workable, once contention sets are set aside.

Donna

From: Gnso-newgtld-wg [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Alexander Schubert
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Dear Rubens,

Absolutely:  We have defined a number of silos like “brand”, “geo”, “generic”, etc. The applications in each silo are NOT “unique”; there will be overlapping! We cannot stifle contention and prioritize geo or brand applications over others.

However:
The Neustar concept can still be utilized to a degree:

Have brands and geos putting in their applications – and have those evaluated! This alone will take a year. None of them however can ever be allocated to ONE applicant before the “last group” (generic terms?) have applied for THEIR strings: If there is no contention with the brands and geos: GREAT! Then the already evaluated brand and geo TLDs can be contracted ASAP and go online. Thus resources are freed up for the other applicants. But contention has to be allowed to occur from ALL phases of applications.

In theory the brands and geos could even do the “provisional” contracting and testing already: but they won’t go into the zone until the last application window has closed and no contention has been found. So the day the last window closes hundreds of cities can go live. Brands seem to NEVER go “live” anyway (save .canon and a few others).

Thanks,

Alexander.berlin

From: Gnso-newgtld-wg [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Rubens Kuhl
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Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] FW: AFRALO-AFRICANN statement - ICANN 64 Kobe, Japan

Although this theme wasn't in WT4 or SGB, I'll explicitly take my leadership hat off just in case.

That said, I don't see the community being able to settle on a priority round. Even though Geos and Brands, the ones that asked for this so far, were perceived as the most interesting use cases of the 2012 round, and while I believe it's likely it will be the case again in the next procedure, there are so many potential clashes in the namespace that there will be always someone disgruntled by such priority. One hypothetical would be the association of apple farmers wanting .apple while Apple Computer also wanted .apple*; the AFRALO-AFRICANN letter is yet another example of this.

We need to walk together in this case, and that means allowing every possible applicant or possible objector to have their opportunity in the upcoming procedure. While in product management it's typical to prioritise use cases in lieu
of others, and a geo/brand round looks pretty much like an MVP (Minimum Viable Product) to me, I don't see how we would bring everyone onboard on this.

Rubens

* Yes, I know only Apple Computer applied in 2012 and they now own .apple

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Subject: AFRALO-AFRICANN statement - ICANN 64 Kobe, Japan

Dear co-chairs of the New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG,

On behalf of AFRALO’s Chair Mohamed El Bashir, kindly find attached the AFRALO/AFRICANN Statement “New gTLD Subsequent Procedure: Proposal of Neustar regarding the upcoming round of New gTLDs" which was discussed and approved at the ICANN 64 meeting in Kobe, Japan.

Please be so kind to find attached the statement for your consideration.

Thank you!

Kind regards,

Silvia Vivanco
Senior Manager, At Large Regional Affairs
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
Tel: + 51-997510935

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