[Gnso-newgtld-wg] Closed Generics and the 2012 Round

Mon Aug 26 18:54:43 UTC 2019

Thanks Jeff.  Your reasoning below is not consistent with what has been proposed in relation to giving priority to applications from the 2012 round that have not been withdrawn.  (How is it that this "priority" is in scope for our WG but nothing else re 2012 applicants is in scope?   AND if I applied for a Closed Generic and didn't get it in 2012, why should I have to require another PDP authorization from GNSO Council in order to be treated similarly to new applicants and convert to a Closed Generic?  (I believe some open registries that won contention sets in 2012 may not have not have actually launched yet.  Why would we say that whether or not they can launch as a Closed Generic is up to GNSO Council?)
Thank you,
Anne

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Thanks all.  We have already got a number of people signed up for the group.  I expect substantive discussions on this topic to start this week.  So, it is not too late to join.  But remember that if you join, the expectation is that we will attempt to find a compromise solution that we all can live with (if possible).

You can view the member list for the small group here:  https://community.icann.org/display/NGSPP/Members+New+gTLD+%3A+Topic+of+Closed+Generics  Please allow a day or two to pass before seeing your name on the list if you just volunteered over the weekend or today.

We will not be talking about Closed Generics in our next meeting tomorrow (late tonight for some of us).

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From: Gnso-newgtld-wg <gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces at icann.org>> On Behalf Of Jeff Neuman
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Subject: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Closed Generics and the 2012 Round

All,

There has been a lot of discussion in the past 24 hours or so on the applicability of our work on the 2012 applications.  Some have expressed concerns about the "fairness" of establishing a policy or new procedures for subsequent rounds when Closed Generics were not allowed in 2012.

The applicable Board Resolution covering Closed Generics required the 2012 applicants for Closed Generics to do one of three things.  Applicants could have withdrawn their applications completely, signed the then-current Registry Agreement which did not allow Closed Generics, or could have deferred their applications for consideration in a subsequent round.   As we covered on the call on Thursday, all of the applicants chose either to convert their applications to open TLDs or withdraw their applications completely.  There were NO applicants that elected to defer their applications to any future round.

Therefore, although in theory we could have had some issues that we needed to address involving applicants in the 2012 round, the reality is that we do not have any such issues.  To address the arguments about fairness of any new policy recommendations on applicants from the previous round, all we can say is that we need to focus on what the right policy should be first without the consideration of the fairness or unfairness to previous applicants from having different rules.  If we as a group determine that the right policy is something other than what happened in 2012, then it will by up to the GNSO Council to either set up a new group to deal with that issue or to refer the issue to this group at a later date.  But for now, as some have stated, that issue is out of scope for our group.

The reality is that there are many things that this group is considering which could produce results that may treat new applicants differently than previous round applicants.  Some of those changes may be favorable to the new applicants and some less favorable.  The same is true with respect to previous applicants.  If we did not make any changes to policy or implementation for fear of the impact on previous or new applicants, no changes would ever be made.  The point is that we need to decide what is the right thing to do, point out to the GNSO Council the potential impacts, and then leave it to the Council on what the next steps should be.

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Thanks for your cooperation and let us know if you have any comments or questions.

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