[Gnso-newgtld-wg] FOR REVIEW: Draft GNSO Council Letter to ICANN Board on NCAP-SubPro Dependencies

Wed Sep 11 04:33:58 UTC 2019

Hi Jeff and Cheryl,
Thanks for sending.  Two quick comments:
(1) the word "including" in b) seems to be missing a letter
(2) In this draft, can we please ask about the pending discussion in relation to the development of  a "DO NOT APPLY" list?  (The sooner the NCAP develops a methodology for that, the better off we all are.)  I have not seen a specific reference to a method for testing as to "DO NOT APPLY" or very high risk strings in Study 1 and so the timing there is a bit concerning.  ALAC points out we could take a bunch of applications and then not delegate until that work is done.  I have always thought and always commented that there should be a way for an applicant to test a string for name collision issues without having to pay the whole application fee and put all the effort into an application and business plan only to find it's a "no go".  We need to be asking about a gating mechanism on this issue to save people a lot of time and trouble.  If that gating mechanism were developed during the time the AGB is being written, then that might prove a way forward to coordinate the timing.

Many thanks for putting this together.  I believe the Board commented that there was an "opportunity for collaboration" with NCAP and an ability to work out the scheduling so that maybe their reply (in line with the public comment filed by the Board).  But it never hurts to clarify.

Anne

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Subject: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] FW: FOR REVIEW: Draft GNSO Council Letter to ICANN Board on NCAP-SubPro Dependencies

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All,

We just wanted to forward this note to the SubPro PDP Full Working Group.  Cheryl and I were asked by the GNSO Council Leadership to give our thoughts to them about the attached draft letter from the Council to the ICANN Board.  We provided this feedback and as you can see we made it clear that the redlines are from Cheryl and I and not the Working Group.

Please let us know if you have any questions.

Jeff Neuman and Cheryl Langdon-Orr

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Subject: RE: FOR REVIEW: Draft GNSO Council Letter to ICANN Board on NCAP-SubPro Dependencies

Dear Keith, Pam and Rafik,

Please find enclosed Cheryl and my redlines to the draft letter.  We do not believe the substance of the letter has been changed at all, but rather just added some more specificity.  This letter contains only the comments of Cheryl and I and not the Subsequent Procedures Working Group.

There are so many people making so many arguments and even if the Board says that there are "dependencies", I think they need to be specific  as to which exact step is the completion of the NCAP work dependent on.  What is the exact point where we cannot move forward.  Some people say the Board cannot accept the final policy without this work being done. Some say the policy can be completed, but implementation work cannot be completed prior to the NCAP finishing.  Some say that can complete but we cannot complete the AGB.  Some say we can complete that but we cannot announce the new round.  Some say we can announce but cannot accept applications.  Some say we can do it all but not delegate.  And finally some say we can delegate and use existing name collision model until NCAP states otherwise.

We hope this makes sense and please forward to the GNSO Council for its consideration.

Thanks again for reaching out to us.  We are going to forward this correspondence chain to the Full Working Group as well.

Best regards,

Jeff Neuman and Cheryl Langdon-Orr
Subsequent Procedures Co-Chairs

Jeff Neuman
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Subject: FW: FOR REVIEW: Draft GNSO Council Letter to ICANN Board on NCAP-SubPro Dependencies

Jeff/Cheryl,

FYI, attached is the draft Council letter to the Board on NCAP and SubPro. This has been sent to the Council list for consideration and comment.

Best,
Keith

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] [council] FOR REVIEW: Draft GNSO Council Letter to ICANN Board on NCAP-SubPro Dependencies

Hi all,

Attached for your review is a draft letter from the GNSO Council to the ICANN Board concerning dependencies between the NCAP  and Subsequent Procedures PDP.

Please review and advise if you have any comments or questions.

We can discuss on the list and this will be included on the agenda for our 19 September GNSO Council meeting.

Thanks,
Keith
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