[Gnso-newgtld-wg] Proposal for introducing new public interest generic gTLDs

Tue Jul 21 18:32:48 UTC 2020

Jeff, as Greg noted, since it is a closed TLD, all "registrations" 
are owned by the registry, so they are not actually registrations.

In terms of your first question, why not just a restricted open TLD, 
you are basically correct.

We went with the premise that in light of GAC advice, the only closed 
generics will be ones that are demonstrable serve a public interest 
goal. If as you hypothesize, all such public interest closed generics 
*COULD* be implemented as open restricted, then there is no need for 
closed generics and the PDP recommends that closed generics not be 
allowed. Period. End of discussion.

The rational for why one would select our proposal over an open 
restricted is that the proposal rules cover all of the objections 
that could be raised to an open restricted TLD - such as being based 
on an insufficient governing structure for instance. More important, 
the registration restrictions would have to be very difficult and 
specific on how nth level registrations and extensions are used and 
the types of content allowed. I'm not sure there are TLDs with such 
restrictions. The closed TLD can set all the rules for how the 
overall TLD is use, allocating 2nd level, 3rd level, 4th level, etc. 
names as they best suit its purpose. So the "restricted" would be FAR 
more than just validating credentials.

Note that in our proposal the first characteristic we are looking for 
is TRUST. The proposal is designed to help build public trust in the 
TLD. AN open restricted domain MIGHT do that, but it might not.

We were working on the presumption that one of the major concerns was 
predictability - that an application not be made that could be shot 
down in a multitude of ways and at the very least, subjected to long delays.

So "follow the PICG rules, and the chances of actually being able to 
deploy the TLD are much better." And with that comes some conditions 
as you note.

But as I started with, if there is no value to what we are proposing, 
then perhaps the best path is to simply forbid such closed TLDs.

Alan

At 2020-07-21 09:38 AM, Jeff Neuman wrote:

>Thanks for this proposal George and the team.  The major item that 
>jumps out at me is that the TLD structure you describe is not really 
>a "closed" TLD, but rather is akin an "open restricted" TLD.
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>Anyone can already apply for an "open restricted" TLD without any of 
>the restrictions you have set forth in this paper. This is like 
>.bank, .pharmacy or others that have third party registrants who 
>agree to very strict validation requirements.  So, if I can apply 
>for a .earthquake (your example) as an "open restricted" TLD without 
>any of the restrictions that are contained within your paper, why 
>would I apply for your "PICgTLD" and agree up front to (a) no 
>expectancy of renewal; (b) restrictions on transfers; (c) 
>obligations of a Council, (d) approval by the board, etc.?  What is 
>the benefit for me to do that when  I can achieve the same thing 
>without agreeing to any of that?
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>Now if  we stated that all of the registrations are "owned" by the 
>Registry itself for use in connection with itself and its members, 
>then perhaps that gets closer to the closed TLD.  Thus, the registry 
>could "license" registrations to third parties (not transfer 
>ownership) so long as the registry itself always maintains ownership 
>of the names and can control the type of content on the sites.
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>Thanks for kicking off the discussion.
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>Jeffrey J. Neuman
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>JJN Solutions, LLC
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>From: Gnso-newgtld-wg <gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces at icann.org> On Behalf 
>Of George Sadowsky
>Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 7:03 AM
>To: gnso-newgtld-wg at icann.org
>Subject: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Proposal for introducing new public 
>interest generic gTLDs
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>All,
>
>As promised, attached is our proposed method of implementing the use 
>of new closed generic top level domains in the public interest 
>within the DNS. It has been formulated by Alan Greenberg, Kathy 
>Kleiman, Greg Shatan and me.  We believe that it has merit and 
>deserves consideration by both the working group and the broader 
>ICANN community, and we welcome the opportunity to present it for 
>comment, discussion and criticism.  We believe that while there are 
>improvements can be made, the approach of creating such a category 
>of TLDs, trusted and protected to serve a public interest, is a goal 
>that can be achieved.
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>We hope that the proposal and the approach that it takes to 
>implementing such a new class of gTLDs will receive serious 
>consideration and criticism by the community.
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>Regards,
>
>George
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