[Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Questions (UPDATED)

Tue Feb 4 15:05:48 UTC 2014

Hi Kathy,

you raise a valid point here, however takedown needs to be one of the 
tools available to privacy or proxy service providers as they usually 
have no other legal protection against claims brought against them for 
custome complaints. They need to be able to completely disavow 
themselves of a domain name in certain cases to avoid liability.
On the other hand, legitimate rights to continued privacy in other cases 
needs to be considered as well.

So I agree with Kathy that simply removing this part of the discussion 
is not helpful. This needs to be discussed.

Volker

Am 04.02.2014 15:55, schrieb Kathy Kleiman:
> Hi All,
> I think something has been mistakenly stricken from the current 
> materials. The concept of "takedown" of a proxy/privacy registration 
> rather than disclosure of the identity and location of those running 
> it - particularly for political dissidents, persecuted religious 
> minorities, and those simply with unpopular views - is a longstanding 
> issue raised by Wendy Seltzer and others in the NCUC.
>
> So many other longstanding (and frankly, long dismissed) issues are 
> placed before us.  This is one that cannot simply be deleted. It may 
> not be the best option, but through our discussion of it, I am sure we 
> will find better ideas. /I ask that it be put back immediately in 
> "Main Issues" and other locations of the document./
>
> Best,
> Kathy
>  :
>> Dear WG members,
>>
>> As requested by Don and noted in his message below, attached is an 
>> edited version of the document that Don has sent, in both CLEAN and 
>> REDLINED versions. Please note that this version has not yet been 
>> reviewed by Don, Steve or Graeme -- however, in the interest of 
>> expediency it is being sent around now to enable you to review it 
>> before the next WG call on Tuesday. As the redlined version is now 
>> rather crossed-over, multiple times, you may find it easier to read 
>> the clean version!
>>
>> As Don has mentioned, this edited version does NOT have most of the 
>> substantive discussions/answers/notes that several WG members had 
>> sent via their redlines of the last Groupings document to the list. 
>> Rest assured, however, that all these comments and notes have been 
>> saved, and will be redistributed or raised again when the WG proceeds 
>> to tackle those particular questions.
>>
>> In those places where WG members have suggested moving certain 
>> questions to different categories, I have done so where this is 
>> consistent with Don's latest suggested grouping. I have also taken 
>> the liberty of adding several footnotes that attempt to summarize 
>> certain suggestions and comments made previously.
>>
>> Finally, I attach also the Issues Chart from the original Staff Paper 
>> that was published prior to the GNSO Council's initiation of this 
>> PDP, in the hope that as you review and discuss the latest grouping 
>> of charter questions it will be helpful background.
>>
>> Cheers, and have a great weekend, everyone,
>> Mary
>>
>> Mary Wong
>> Senior Policy Director
>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)
>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4892
>> Email: mary.wong at icann.org
>>
>> * One World. One Internet. *
>>
>> From: Don Blumenthal <dblumenthal at pir.org <mailto:dblumenthal at pir.org>>
>> Date: Friday, January 31, 2014 2:59 PM
>> To: PPSAI <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org 
>> <mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org>>
>> Subject: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Questions
>>
>>     Thanks for all of your contributions that last few days. I took
>>     Michele's last version and tweaked it add Hector's comments. That
>>     should capture everything since Tuesday. I am attaching a 1/31
>>     iteration.
>>
>>     However, our focus now needs to be the work plan, and locking the
>>     initial questions down is the first step. With that in mind, we
>>     will distribute a version of today's file on them.  You won't see
>>     the substantive points in the next file that comes your way,
>>     except where the points address why an item should or should not
>>     be in the list.  We will work off this document next Tuesday.
>>
>>     Regards,
>>
>>     Don
>>
>>
>>
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