[Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] PPSAI WG -- questions for list
Volker Greimann
vgreimann at key-systems.net
Wed May 21 13:18:44 UTC 2014
I do not see it as necessary. Any such service provider will in its own
best interest somehow identify himself as a p/p service provider within
the current whois details, either as part of the name of the service or
in some other way. A whois privacy service not identifying itself as
such would have a more difficult position if it needs to evidence the
fact it did not register the domain for itself if this is not somehow
evident in the whois already.
Adding an additional tag or flag to the whois seems to be superfluous
with that in mind. Having to implement something that makes no sense
seems like a waste of ressources.
Alternatively, why not simply let ICANN post a list of accredited
service providers and require them to have their name included in the
whois details?
One further thought. It seems superfluous to require
registrar-affiliated services to get accredited. Better propose an
amendment to the RAA that all requirements with regard to whois details,
relay and reveal, etc for accredited service providers also apply to
registrar-affiliated service providers. Thoughts?
V.
Am 21.05.2014 14:52, schrieb Michele Neylon - Blacknight:
>
> Volker
>
> Would you have an issue with there being an extra "flag" to indicate
> that a domain was using a PP?
>
> M
>
> --
> Mr Michele Neylon
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> *From:*gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
> [mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Volker
> Greimann
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 21, 2014 10:55 AM
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> *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] PPSAI WG -- questions for list
>
> Agreed.
>
> 1) There is no compelling reason to exclude potentially legal use of
> privacy services.
> 2) The service provided essentially remains the same, therefore no
> differentiation in the whois output is necessary.
>
> Volker
>
> Am 21.05.2014 00:06, schrieb Michele Neylon - Blacknight:
>
> Personally I think two things:
>
> 1 -- P/P services should be open to anyone who wants to use them
>
> 2 -- the display in whois should be the same no matter who or what
> has registered the domain
>
> With respect to point 2, I don't have any issue with there being a
> "flag" of some kind to indicate that a registration record is
> using an accredited P/P
>
> Regards
>
> Michele
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> --
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> Mr Michele Neylon
>
> Blacknight Solutions
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> Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland Company No.: 370845
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> *From:*gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
> <mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>
> [mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of
> *Metalitz, Steven
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 20, 2014 5:07 PM
> *To:* 'Marika Konings'; gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org
> <mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org>
> *Subject:* [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] PPSAI WG -- questions for list
>
> Thanks to all participants on today's call. Following up on
> requests made on the call ----
>
> Regarding Don's draft preliminary text regarding questions
> C(threshold), C 1 and C2, please circulate your comments and
> (especially welcomed!) proposed edits. Don's draft is re-attached
> here for ready reference.
>
> Regarding question C.3: If the following applies to you, please
> respond on the list:
>
> IF you believe that privacy/proxy services ought to be open to
> commercial entities under some circumstances, THEN should there be
> a difference in the data displayed for such registrations (vs.
> what is displayed for p/p registrations by natural persons)? If
> the answer is YES, please specify the differences.
>
> For myself I will say that my answer is NO, but I hope that any
> YES people will step forward on the list.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Steve Metalitz, vice chair
>
> *From:*gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
> <mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>
> [mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Marika
> Konings
> *Sent:* Monday, May 19, 2014 3:39 PM
> *To:* gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org>
> *Subject:* [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Proposed Agenda - PPSAI WG Meeting
>
> Dear All,
>
> Please find below the proposed agenda for tomorrow's PPSAI WG Meeting.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Marika
>
> *Proposed Agenda -- PPSAI WG Meeting -- 20 May 2014*
>
> 1. Roll Call / SOI
> 2. Review proposed preliminary conclusion for threshold question,
> C1 and C2 (as circulated by Don)
> 3. Review C3 -- is additional response/discussion needed in light
> of item 2? (see template attached)
> 4. Continue deliberations on D1 (see updated template attached)
> 5. Next steps / confirm next meeting
>
>
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