[Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] PPSAI WG -- questions for list

Thu May 22 16:04:54 UTC 2014

Hi kiran,

I tried doing that with Libbys proposal, but found that it made it too 
chaotic. Hence the pasted version below.

V.

Am 22.05.2014 18:01, schrieb Kiran Malancharuvil:
> Volker,
>
> I would appreciate it if you would redline the document rather than include proposed language in the body of an email.  That way we can see exactly what your proposed changes are, which I for one am open to considering if we can get to a balanced position.
>
> K
>
> Kiran Malancharuvil
> Internet Policy Counselor
> MarkMonitor
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>
> Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos.
>
> On May 22, 2014, at 8:58 AM, "Volker Greimann" <vgreimann at key-systems.net<mailto:vgreimann at key-systems.net>> wrote:
>
> I can't support the amended language for obvious reasons. The draft proposed here is clearly drafted to favor one position. If we want to get anywere, we need a more balanced approach.
>
> How about this:
>
> 1)
>
> c)
>
> As noted above, the WG appears to unanimously agree that the mere fact of a domain being registered as a commercial entity, or conducting commercial activity in other spheres, should not prevent the use of p/p domain name registration services.
>
> A number of WG members, representing their SO/AC/C, noted that in the “offline world” businesses often are required to register with the relevant authority as well as disclose details about their identity and location. These members suggested that domains used for commercial purposes should be ineligible for privacy and proxy registrations. However, a number of other WG members, also representing their SO/AC/C, noted that where similar legal requirements already exist for the "online world", such disclosure is usually required to be contained under a prominent link on the web site as in the translation from the "offline world" to the "online world" legislators usually focussed on the content available under the domain name, not the domain name registration itself. Further, these members argue that there may be valid reasons why domain name registrants using their domain names for commercial purposes may legitimately need the availability of such services.
>
> There is further divergence within the WG between those members expressing the view that it is both necessary and practical to distinguish in the whois between domains used for a commercial purpose and those domains that are not used for a noncommercial purpose, and those members that expressed the view that it is neither practical nor necessary to require p/p service providers to make that distinction.
>
> Volker
>
> Am 22.05.2014 16:55, schrieb Libby Baney:
> All -- as evidenced on last week's call, there is concern about the language in the draft conclusion for Cat C threshold question. Per the request for specific edits, attached are redlined edits to the template submitted for the group's consideration by FWD Strategies Int'l, LegitScript, MarkMonitor and DomainTools. We look forward to your comments and further discussion if needed.
>
> Thanks,
> Libby
>
> www.FWDstrategies.com<http://www.FWDstrategies.com>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 5:42 AM, Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org<mailto:marika.konings at icann.org>> wrote:
> Following on from Steve's emails, please find attached the updated templates for C3 and D1, incorporating the notes from the meeting (if I've missed anything, please share your comments / edits with the mailing list). To re-emphasise the action items from the meeting:
>
>    1.  Please provide your input on the draft preliminary conclusion for C threshold, C1 and C2 as circulated by Don. Several of you suggested removing the word 'overwhelming' from the draft. Are there any other proposed edits?
>    2.  Please provide your input on question C3, especially if you are of the view that there should be differences in the data fields displayed for commercial entity and natural person P/P registrations.
>    3.  Please provide your input on question D1, especially whether it would be desirable to have a public registry of P/P services contact information and a requirement to respond to enquiries both from P/P customers as well as those looking to contact P/P customers. Input on what would qualify as a 'response' and a possible timeframe for responses are also encouraged.
>    4.  Kathy and James will provide an update at the next meeting on issues surrounding transfers between registrars of P/P registrations and possible questions the WG may want to address in this context.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Marika
>
> From: <Metalitz>, Steven <met at msk.com<mailto:met at msk.com>>
> Date: Tuesday 20 May 2014 18:06
> To: Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org<mailto:marika.konings at icann.org>>, "gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org>" <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org>>
> Subject: PPSAI WG -- questions for list
>
> Thanks to all participants on today’s call.  Following up on requests made on the call ----
>
> Regarding Don’s draft preliminary text regarding questions C(threshold), C 1 and C2, please circulate your comments and (especially welcomed!) proposed edits.  Don’s draft is re-attached here for ready reference.
>
> Regarding question C.3:  If the following applies to you, please respond on the list:
>
> IF you believe that privacy/proxy services ought to be open to commercial entities under some circumstances, THEN should there be a difference in the data displayed for such registrations (vs. what is displayed for p/p registrations by natural persons)?  If the answer is YES, please specify the differences.
>
> For myself I will say that my answer is NO, but I hope that any YES people will step forward on the list.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Steve Metalitz, vice chair
>
>
>
> From: gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org> [mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Marika Konings
> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 3:39 PM
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> Subject: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Proposed Agenda - PPSAI WG Meeting
>
> Dear All,
>
> Please find below the proposed agenda for tomorrow's PPSAI WG Meeting.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Marika
>
> Proposed Agenda – PPSAI WG Meeting – 20 May 2014
>
>    1.  Roll Call / SOI
>    2.  Review proposed preliminary conclusion for threshold question, C1 and C2 (as circulated by Don)
>    3.  Review C3 – is additional response/discussion needed in light of item 2? (see template attached)
>    4.  Continue deliberations on D1 (see updated template attached)
>    5.  Next steps / confirm next meeting
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