[Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] PPSAI WG -- questions for list

Kiran Malancharuvil Kiran.Malancharuvil at markmonitor.com
Thu May 22 16:42:52 UTC 2014 

I don't recall formally requesting input, Tim. Please read my suggestion again. I said that, picking up on James's suggestion from a couple of weeks ago, we should perform outreach since it was determined during our discussion that the implications of this issue may be quite broad. 

K

Kiran Malancharuvil 
Internet Policy Counselor
MarkMonitor
415-419-9138 (m) 

Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. 

> On May 22, 2014, at 9:39 AM, "Tim Ruiz" <tim at godaddy.com> wrote:
> 
> Right, anyone from the other SOs/ACs may join the WG, comment on anything we put out for public comment, etc. But I see no need to formally request their input as you seemed to suggest.
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
>> On May 22, 2014, at 11:36 AM, "Kiran Malancharuvil" <Kiran.Malancharuvil at markmonitor.com> wrote:
>> 
>> You are incorrect Tim. Other SO and AC's are ALWAYS welcome to provide input in ANY GNSO working group.
>> 
>> Kiran
>> 
>> Kiran Malancharuvil 
>> Internet Policy Counselor
>> MarkMonitor
>> 415-419-9138 (m) 
>> 
>> Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. 
>> 
>>> On May 22, 2014, at 9:29 AM, "Tim Ruiz" <tim at godaddy.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> This is not a cross SO/AC WG. It is a GNSO PDP on a matter that is under the GNSO umbrella of issues. As such, what we need is SG and C input/feedback.
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 22, 2014, at 10:35 AM, "Kiran Malancharuvil" <Kiran.Malancharuvil at markmonitor.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Exactly our point.  I believe you also made this point a couple weeks ago. Despite the number of individual voices, there hasn't been a lot of diverse (from an SO/AC perspective) input. To that point, there should probably be outreach on this point. 
>>>> 
>>>> K
>>>> 
>>>> Kiran Malancharuvil 
>>>> Internet Policy Counselor
>>>> MarkMonitor
>>>> 415-419-9138 (m) 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos. 
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 22, 2014, at 8:32 AM, "James M. Bladel" <jbladel at godaddy.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> To Steve¹s point: What other SO/ACs are speaking on this? Aren¹t we all
>>>>> (or at least the vocal elements) GNSO?
>>>>> 
>>>>> J.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 5/22/14, 10:05 , "Kiran Malancharuvil"
>>>>> <Kiran.Malancharuvil at markmonitor.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I believe we intended to make clear that, as working group members, we do
>>>>>> not vote as individuals but rather as representatives of our individual
>>>>>> SO/AC/C. While a vote hasn't taken place yet, it's important to remember
>>>>>> that sheer volume of vocal individuals isn't the point, regardless of
>>>>>> where you fall on the issue.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> K
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kiran Malancharuvil
>>>>>> Internet Policy Counselor
>>>>>> MarkMonitor
>>>>>> 415-419-9138 (m)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 22, 2014, at 8:01 AM, "Metalitz, Steven"
>>>>>> <met at msk.com<mailto:met at msk.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks Libby, this is a helpful contribution.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Could you clarify one point:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ³However, a number of WG members, representing their SO/AC/C,
>>>>>> disagreedŠ.²  Which SO/AC/C are you referring to ?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: Libby Baney [mailto:libby.baney at fwdstrategies.com]
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 10:55 AM
>>>>>> To: Marika Konings
>>>>>> Cc: Metalitz, Steven;
>>>>>> gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] PPSAI WG -- questions for list
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All -- as evidenced on last week's call, there is concern about the
>>>>>> language in the draft conclusion for Cat C threshold question. Per the
>>>>>> request for specific edits, attached are redlined edits to the template
>>>>>> submitted for the group's consideration by FWD Strategies Int'l,
>>>>>> LegitScript, MarkMonitor and DomainTools. We look forward to your
>>>>>> comments and further discussion if needed.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Libby
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> www.FWDstrategies.com<http://www.FWDstrategies.com>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 5:42 AM, Marika Konings
>>>>>> <marika.konings at icann.org<mailto:marika.konings at icann.org>> wrote:
>>>>>> Following on from Steve's emails, please find attached the updated
>>>>>> templates for C3 and D1, incorporating the notes from the meeting (if
>>>>>> I've missed anything, please share your comments / edits with the mailing
>>>>>> list). To re-emphasise the action items from the meeting:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1.  Please provide your input on the draft preliminary conclusion for C
>>>>>> threshold, C1 and C2 as circulated by Don. Several of you suggested
>>>>>> removing the word 'overwhelming' from the draft. Are there any other
>>>>>> proposed edits?
>>>>>> 2.  Please provide your input on question C3, especially if you are of
>>>>>> the view that there should be differences in the data fields displayed
>>>>>> for commercial entity and natural person P/P registrations.
>>>>>> 3.  Please provide your input on question D1, especially whether it
>>>>>> would be desirable to have a public registry of P/P services contact
>>>>>> information and a requirement to respond to enquiries both from P/P
>>>>>> customers as well as those looking to contact P/P customers. Input on
>>>>>> what would qualify as a 'response' and a possible timeframe for responses
>>>>>> are also encouraged.
>>>>>> 4.  Kathy and James will provide an update at the next meeting on
>>>>>> issues surrounding transfers between registrars of P/P registrations and
>>>>>> possible questions the WG may want to address in this context.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Marika
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: <Metalitz>, Steven <met at msk.com<mailto:met at msk.com>>
>>>>>> Date: Tuesday 20 May 2014 18:06
>>>>>> To: Marika Konings
>>>>>> <marika.konings at icann.org<mailto:marika.konings at icann.org>>,
>>>>>> "gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org>"
>>>>>> <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org>>
>>>>>> Subject: PPSAI WG -- questions for list
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks to all participants on today¹s call.  Following up on requests
>>>>>> made on the call ----
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regarding Don¹s draft preliminary text regarding questions C(threshold),
>>>>>> C 1 and C2, please circulate your comments and (especially welcomed!)
>>>>>> proposed edits.  Don¹s draft is re-attached here for ready reference.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regarding question C.3:  If the following applies to you, please respond
>>>>>> on the list:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> IF you believe that privacy/proxy services ought to be open to commercial
>>>>>> entities under some circumstances, THEN should there be a difference in
>>>>>> the data displayed for such registrations (vs. what is displayed for p/p
>>>>>> registrations by natural persons)?  If the answer is YES, please specify
>>>>>> the differences.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For myself I will say that my answer is NO, but I hope that any YES
>>>>>> people will step forward on the list.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Steve Metalitz, vice chair
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: 
>>>>>> gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann
>>>>>> .org> [mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Marika
>>>>>> Konings
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 3:39 PM
>>>>>> To: gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org>
>>>>>> Subject: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Proposed Agenda - PPSAI WG Meeting
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please find below the proposed agenda for tomorrow's PPSAI WG Meeting.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Marika
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Proposed Agenda ­ PPSAI WG Meeting ­ 20 May 2014
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1.  Roll Call / SOI
>>>>>> 2.  Review proposed preliminary conclusion for threshold question, C1
>>>>>> and C2 (as circulated by Don)
>>>>>> 3.  Review C3 ­ is additional response/discussion needed in light of
>>>>>> item 2? (see template attached)
>>>>>> 4.  Continue deliberations on D1 (see updated template attached)
>>>>>> 5.  Next steps / confirm next meeting
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Libby Baney, JD
>>>>>> President
>>>>>> FWD Strategies International
>>>>>> www.fwdstrategies.com<http://www.fwdstrategies.com>
>>>>>> P: 202-499-2296
>>>>>> 
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