[Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Recap & Moving Forward

[Volker Greimann]

Also note that even if no license of an IP is granted to a registrant of 
a domain name matching the string, the registrant may still have rights 
to use the string:

- fair use
- free speech
- own IP
- use in different categories not covered by IP
- IP is generic/dictionary word/etc.

Best,

Volker


Am 04.11.2014 22:45, schrieb Frank Michlick:
> Hi Val,
>
> On 2014-11-04 4:19 PM, Valeriya Sherman wrote:
>> Phil/Graeme -- An IP owner would know who they authorized to use the 
>> IP and who they did not. The issue is that they do not know whether a 
>> particular Customer, whose identity is hidden, needs authorization or 
>> not. In the example I provided earlier, where a Requestor has rights 
>> in US but not in the EU, it would be essential for him to know where 
>> the Customer is located to establish whether the Customer needs any 
>> authorization -- and that is some of the information that Disclosure 
>>  would provide.
> IP owners could also track the domains where their customers are 
> allowed to use their IP.
>
> Remember, we're not really talking about any content here that is 
> hosted on a site with a domain under privacy, as the privacy provider 
> usually has no involvement with the hosting etc. There are existing 
> paths that deal with infringements that can be applied, no matter if 
> there is whois privacy or not.
>
> But I also have to wonder if a partial disclosure of the registrant's 
> country would satisfy your need in this case. Not that I support this 
> either really.
>>
>> Another point that came up during our call is that an authorized 
>> party would respond to a relay request. Lack of response to relays is 
>> evidence of bad faith, but it doesn't obviate the need for 
>> disclosure. As noted above, a Customer may not need any 
>> authorization, so his failure to reply to a relayed request is not 
>> conclusive evidence of his rights or lack thereof. Disclosure is 
>> still needed.
>>
> "Lack of response to relays is evidence of bad faith"?  Why would 
> someone be obliged to respond to a message they receive, be it via 
> relay or not - and how do you ensure that its received?
>
> Best regards,
> /FM
>
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