[Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Discussion draft on Disclose

Volker Greimann vgreimann at key-systems.net
Thu Oct 9 12:55:21 UTC 2014


The policy can set a minimum requirement that must be part of the 
implementation.

Volker

Am 09.10.2014 14:38, schrieb Don Blumenthal:
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> Specific standards are useful for our discussion purposes. However, is 
> it our job to set them or are they an implementation issue?
>
> Don
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> *From:*Volker Greimann [mailto:vgreimann at key-systems.net]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 9, 2014 4:30 AM
> *To:* Don Blumenthal; gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Discussion draft on Disclose
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> Agreed, ideally, the proposed procedures and requirements would be 
> identical for any form of abuse, from copyright infringement to 
> spamming. All equally bad, so there is no reason to handle them 
> differently.
>
> I do believe however the standard of evidence required should be far 
> beyond the "good faith belief" proposed by Steve and rather be in the 
> realm of "sworn statement that can be used in court and carries 
> penalty if false in any way".
>
> Best,
>
> Volker
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> Am 08.10.2014 22:00, schrieb Don Blumenthal:
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>     Thanks, Steve and Volker.
>
>     I also suggest that we view the document within the context of
>     anti abuse or other requests unrelated to intellectual property
>     issues. I'm not sure that we want to suggest having multiple sets
>     of standards.
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>     *From:*gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
>     <mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>
>     [mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Volker
>     Greimann
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, October 8, 2014 1:16 PM
>     *To:* gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org>
>     *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Discussion draft on Disclose
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>     Thank you Steve for providing a basis for discussion, however I
>     felt the need for certain changes. Please review the enclosed
>     revised draft for a more balanced proposal. This draft:
>     - removes the requirement of service providers to make legal
>     determinations they are not qualified for
>     - ensures that only the minimum of data required for the
>     complainant to assess further steps is required to be disclosed,
>     but more may be at the choice of the provider
>     - reduces the risk of unsubstantiated or erroneous claims by
>     including an obligation to legally certify (and be sued if wrong)
>     all statements
>
>     We might also want to think about an indemnification requirement.
>
>     Anyway, nothing set in stone, just food for though and further debate.
>
>     Best,
>
>     volker
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>     Am 08.10.2014 16:52, schrieb Metalitz, Steven:
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>         Thanks Mary, this should be quite helpful.
>
>         As further material for our discussion, and as mentioned on
>         our call yesterday, I attach a discussion draft for p/p
>         accreditation policy on Disclose, put forward on behalf of a
>         number of the IPC participants in the WG.  We hope this helps
>         move the discussion forward in LA.
>
>         Steve Metalitz
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>         *From:*gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
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>         *Subject:* [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Wiki page for 10 October -
>         including reading materials
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