[Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Statement in Support of Transactional Distinction

Thu Apr 30 17:10:04 UTC 2015

Please include the attached statement in support of the transactional distinction.  It was prepared by a number of the proponents of this provision.

Thank you.

Best,

Kiran

From: Metalitz, Steven [mailto:met at msk.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 9:28 AM
To: Kiran Malancharuvil
Cc: Graeme Bunton; gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org
Subject: RE: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] PPSAI Comment Period and Section 1.3.3

Kiran,

Of course you (and any other member of the WG) can submit a separate statement today and can include in it whatever you wish.  We have asked that statements be limited to 1-2 pages if at all possible.

Steve

From: Kiran Malancharuvil [mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil at markmonitor.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 12:26 PM
To: Metalitz, Steven
Cc: Graeme Bunton; gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org>
Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] PPSAI Comment Period and Section 1.3.3

Steve,

I'm not sure I understand what is being proposed here.

Are we still able to submit our statement (the deadline is today)? Are we allowed to link to the white paper in our statement?

What links are to be provided? Just a link to the mailing list archive and call transcripts? That would not be appropriate. Asking folks to sort through the emails/calls looking for relevant information means that it will be essentially buried and inaccessible.

K

Kiran Malancharuvil
Internet Policy Counselor
MarkMonitor
415-419-9138 (m)

Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos.

On Apr 30, 2015, at 8:38 AM, Metalitz, Steven <met at msk.com<mailto:met at msk.com<mailto:met at msk.com%3cmailto:met at msk.com>>> wrote:

Graeme and I have asked staff to insert a footnote in this section, providing links to the extensive discussions of the topic in WG meetings (telephonic and face to face) and on the mailing list, as background for the public.

Steve

From: gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org%3cmailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>> [mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Graeme Bunton
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 11:14 AM
To: gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org%3cmailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org>>
Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] PPSAI Comment Period and Section 1.3.3

Steve, myself and staff are discussing how to proceed while ensuring
that balance is maintained.
Thank you all for your contributions.

Graeme
On 2015-04-30 11:02 AM, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
> So let me get this very very clear, as i am new to the process.
> 1. The research report you offered was sent to the list.
> 2. It has never been part of the record.
> 3. You wish to see it added now, April 30th, 23:58 KST.
> 4, You are telling me I could have done the same thing.
> 5. I have Exactly how much time to submit a minority report in order
> to comply with the deadline of April 30th?
>
> Thanks for the clarifications.
> Stephanie
>
> On 2015-04-30 23:52, Kiran Malancharuvil wrote:
>> Stephanie,
>>
>> You had ample opportunity to prepare and present a white paper of
>> your own.
>>
>> It was not unsolicited, as at any time, members of the group are
>> welcome and encouraged to present their views on the matter under
>> discussion.
>>
>> Are you really saying that a well researched policy position and a
>> presentation of that research is NOT meant to be a part of the PDP
>> process? I really do not think that it the case.
>>
>> I know that you object to the position that the white paper explains,
>> but unless there is a concrete prohibition on linking to it (staff?)
>> it needs to be included, as we have every right to present the
>> complex legal argument behind our position.
>>
>> Kiran Malancharuvil
>> Internet Policy Counselor
>> MarkMonitor
>> 415-419-9138 (m)
>>
>> Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos.
>>
>>> On Apr 30, 2015, at 7:45 AM, Stephanie Perrin
>>> <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca<mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca<mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca%3cmailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> With great respect to Kiran and to the law firm that compiled the
>>> "white paper", I objected at the time and there was no indication
>>> that we accepted the white paper in our discussions, other than to
>>> say thanks. I would object strenuously to it being included. That
>>> was a totally unsolicited contribution from parties wishing to
>>> advance their case. You cannot attach that paper, without giving
>>> those on the other side an opportunity to counter it with another
>>> white paper. Frankly, the PDP process is not supposed to be about
>>> dualling unsolicited white papers. IF we need to have research
>>> done, we have to agree on what needs to be done if it is to be
>>> attached to the official call for comments. I don't wish to be
>>> ungracious, but the paper should not be added.
>>> Stephanie Perrin
>>>
>>>> On 2015-04-30 23:34, Kiran Malancharuvil wrote:
>>>> It is a recommendation for a policy/best practice from a portion of
>>>> the group.
>>>>
>>>> K
>>>>
>>>> Kiran Malancharuvil
>>>> Internet Policy Counselor
>>>> MarkMonitor
>>>> 415-419-9138 (m)
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos.
>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 30, 2015, at 7:33 AM, James Gannon
>>>>> <james at cyberinvasion.net<mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net<mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net%3cmailto:james at cyberinvasion.net>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Unless we are suggesting that the whitepaper is consensus policy
>>>>> or best practice it does not fall under that category. We are
>>>>> presenting our policy recommendation already, which is the work
>>>>> product of the group
>>>>>
>>>>> -James
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Kiran Malancharuvil
>>>>> [mailto:Kiran.Malancharuvil at markmonitor.com]
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 3:31 PM
>>>>> To: James Gannon
>>>>> Cc: Mary Wong; PPSAI
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] PPSAI Comment Period and Section
>>>>> 1.3.3
>>>>>
>>>>> Recommendations for policies, guidelines, best practices.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kiran Malancharuvil
>>>>> Internet Policy Counselor
>>>>> MarkMonitor
>>>>> 415-419-9138 (m)
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 30, 2015, at 7:29 AM, James Gannon
>>>>>> <james at cyberinvasion.net<mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net<mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net%3cmailto:james at cyberinvasion.net>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Quoting from the PDP Manual, there seems to be strong guidelines
>>>>>> of what goes out with the Initial Report:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After collection and review of information, the PDP Team and
>>>>>>> Staff are responsible for producing an Initial Report. The
>>>>>>> Initial Report should include the following elements:
>>>>>>> * Compilation of Stakeholder Group and Constituency Statements
>>>>>>> * Compilation of any statements received from any ICANN
>>>>>>> Supporting Organization or Advisory Committee
>>>>>>> * Recommendations for policies, guidelines, best practices or
>>>>>>> other proposals to address the issue
>>>>>>> * Statement of level of consensus for the recommendations
>>>>>>> presented in the Initial Report
>>>>>>> * Information regarding the members of the PDP Team, such as the
>>>>>>> attendance records, Statements of Interest, etc.
>>>>>>> * A statement on the WG discussion concerning impact of the
>>>>>>> proposed recommendations, could consider areas such as economic,
>>>>>>> competition, operations, privacy and other rights, scalability
>>>>>>> and feasibility
>>>>>> I don't see where in that framework the whitepaper would sit. I
>>>>>> would welcome others thoughts on this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -James
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org%3cmailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>>
>>>>>> [mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Kiran
>>>>>> Malancharuvil
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 3:09 PM
>>>>>> To: Mary Wong
>>>>>> Cc: PPSAI
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] PPSAI Comment Period and Section
>>>>>> 1.3.3
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mary,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since one side of this issue prepared a lengthy legal review to
>>>>>> address this question, I would request that that white paper be
>>>>>> included in the reference materials for the public comment. Since
>>>>>> public comment is meant to "resolve" this issue, commenters need
>>>>>> all of the information.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's not just down to feasibility of self-declaration at
>>>>>> registration (which frankly, many of us see as a cop out since
>>>>>> it's already done in some TLDs), but also legality.
>>>>>> Not trying to re-open the debate, but please, let's make sure the
>>>>>> community understands the various points and the background.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> K
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kiran Malancharuvil
>>>>>> Internet Policy Counselor
>>>>>> MarkMonitor
>>>>>> 415-419-9138 (m)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my mobile, please excuse any typos.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 30, 2015, at 6:58 AM, Mary Wong
>>>>>> <mary.wong at icann.org<mailto:mary.wong at icann.org<mailto:mary.wong at icann.org%3cmailto:mary.wong at icann.org<mailto:mary.wong at icann.org%3cmailto:mary.wong at icann.org%3cmailto:mary.wong at icann.org%3cmailto:mary.wong at icann.org>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To add to Stephanie's note that this specific issue - whether
>>>>>> registrants of domain names actively used for commercial
>>>>>> transactions ought to be disallowed from using P/P services - had
>>>>>> been discussed at some length by the WG:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please note that this part of the Initial Report draws heavily on
>>>>>> the detailed WG template for Charter Category C that was the
>>>>>> basis for the WG's deliberations on this topic. That template
>>>>>> contains lengthy descriptions of what had previously been termed
>>>>>> the majority and minority positions on the WG's answer to this
>>>>>> specific issue. As part of the WG's deliberations - which took
>>>>>> place primarily between April and June 2014 - the more specific
>>>>>> formulation of "transactional" to describe the sort of commercial
>>>>>> (i.e. Involving financial transactions) activities that were
>>>>>> being discussed was included in the language. All the templates
>>>>>> and suggested formulations discussed by the WG are recorded and
>>>>>> published on the WG wiki.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The WG ultimately agreed to retain the two positions in the
>>>>>> Initial Report and to revisit the question during its review of
>>>>>> the public comments received. As noted previously, the WG's views
>>>>>> were presented to the community in London in June 2014 and again
>>>>>> in Los Angeles in October 2014.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Therefore, the three questions in Section 1.3.3 of the Executive
>>>>>> Summary only go toward soliciting community input on this single
>>>>>> issue. They were not intended to represent a view of any "side"
>>>>>> in the WG with regard to this matter. If the WG prefers, we can
>>>>>> add a sentence to clarify and specify the reason for the
>>>>>> questions in Section 1.3.3. Fundamentally, the idea is that
>>>>>> public comments will facilitate the WG's eventual resolution of
>>>>>> this issue as part of its preparation of the Final Report.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We hope this reminder of the background is of assistance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Mary
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mary Wong
>>>>>> Senior Policy Director
>>>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)
>>>>>> Telephone: +1 603 574 4892
>>>>>> Email: mary.wong at icann.org<mailto:mary.wong at icann.org<mailto:mary.wong at icann.org%3cmailto:mary.wong at icann.org<mailto:mary.wong at icann.org%3cmailto:mary.wong at icann.org%3cmailto:mary.wong at icann.org%3cmailto:mary.wong at icann.org>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Stephanie Perrin
>>>>>> <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca<mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca<mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca%3cmailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca<mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca%3cmailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca%3cmailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca%3cmailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Thursday, April 30, 2015 at 09:20
>>>>>> To:
>>>>>> "gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org%3cmailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org%3e><mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org%3cmailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org%3e%3cmailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org%3cmailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org%3e%3e>"
>>>>>> <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org%3cmailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org%3cmailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org%3cmailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org%3cmailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org>>>>, James
>>>>>> Gannon <james at cyberinvasion.net<mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net<mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net%3cmailto:james at cyberinvasion.net<mailto:james at cyberinvasion.net%3cmailto:james at cyberinvasion.net%3cmailto:james at cyberinvasion.net%3cmailto:james at cyberinvasion.net>>>>,
>>>>>> Michele Blacknight
>>>>>> <michele at blacknight.com<mailto:michele at blacknight.com<mailto:michele at blacknight.com%3cmailto:michele at blacknight.com<mailto:michele at blacknight.com%3cmailto:michele at blacknight.com%3cmailto:michele at blacknight.com%3cmailto:michele at blacknight.com>>>>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] PPSAI Comment Period and Section
>>>>>> 1.3.3
>>>>>>
>>>>>> James, prior to you joining the group, we had discussed this at
>>>>>> some length. IN fact, I really thought that the many reasons why
>>>>>> sorting out the purpose of a registration is problematic had
>>>>>> buried this debate, but apparently not. Some of the issues
>>>>>> raised, according to my recollection were the following:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * names are registered prior to decisions about content
>>>>>> * content changes over time
>>>>>> * most countries regulate e-commerce in some fashion, so that
>>>>>> website commercial activity does not have to be regulated by ICANN
>>>>>> * ICANN should not be in the business of regulating content in
>>>>>> the first place (and sorting out who is extracting a material
>>>>>> consideration from a website in order to deny them the ability to
>>>>>> use a proxy registration is certainly a form of regulation)
>>>>>> * definitions of commercial activity vary widely around the world
>>>>>> * bad actors will not declare, registrars cannot police this
>>>>>> matter
>>>>>> * criminal prosecution is not dependent on WHOIS information
>>>>>> * if this is really about the ability to detect market
>>>>>> information, ICANN should not be in the business of making
>>>>>> registrant information available for market purposes, it does it
>>>>>> for security and stability.
>>>>>> * contactability remains, regardless of which registrant info
>>>>>> appears in WHOIS
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am planning to reformulate these into questions to match the
>>>>>> questions on the other side, suggestions welcome.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stephanie Perrin
>>>>>> On 2015-04-30 16:24, James Gannon wrote:
>>>>>> I don't see this as asking providers to enforce anything similar
>>>>>> to other questions when registering a domain, it's a
>>>>>> self-reported assessment. All it does is add an additional branch
>>>>>> to the decision tree for eligibility, which will already be there
>>>>>> to determine eligibility due to the other reasons listed below.
>>>>>> The registrant is asked will you be processing financial
>>>>>> transactions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Yes-->Will you be using a 3rd party>No>Not eligible for
>>>>>> P/P.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Yes-->Will you be using a 3rd party>Yes>Eligible for P/P.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not asking registrars to enforce law but to see if a more
>>>>>> finely grained eligibility process can be enacted. Or at least is
>>>>>> there is public support for more granularity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -James
>>>>>> From: Michele Neylon - Blacknight [mailto:michele at blacknight.com]
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 8:17 AM
>>>>>> To: James Gannon; Graeme Bunton; PPSAI
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] PPSAI Comment Period and Section
>>>>>> 1.3.3
>>>>>>
>>>>>> James
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As a registrar or PP service provider how am I meant to assess this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It doesn't scale
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seriously.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If, for example, there is an Irish operated website that is not
>>>>>> complying with Irish law then it would be up to the ODCE
>>>>>> (http://www.odce.ie/<https://protect-us.mimecast.com/r/IqfLPS2xhmx-5GDCPCM4mLmlw-jOPQHGmhpzAjWDKActStEmX7ndjfqnEIgUMkdhXCAGe_aALVo69T0irIiCOftGW0RRkFeeJXP_SQ_bxxN5c9ZWrJzjnfSpDUeI4UjuT2dsrtgXox-JsiUyGsBvbDhSHcf2gH3gqSI2YwvUnORJuOhanPP2uCSQp3bey2BqQKbirhovyP6hDiunUi2Ilg><https://protect-us.mimecast.com/r/IqfLPS2xhmx-5GDCPCM4mLmlw-jOPQHGmhpzAjWDKActStEmX7ndjfqnEIgUMkdhXCAGe_aALVo69T0irIiCOftGW0RRkFeeJXP_SQ_bxxN5c9ZWrJzjnfSpDUeI4UjuT2dsrtgXox-JsiUyGsBvbDhSHcf2gH3gqSI2YwvUnORJuOhanPP2uCSQp3bey2BqQKbirhovyP6hDiunUi2Ilg<https://protect-us.mimecast.com/r/4lNzdG4V_LBmiovLA6p9BZsfLgWW8IZSZ8mzFYFSEGMRVcYO2zG2wkLeacYjtsSRf_sSF--BDXNIv1JkaSjK7YDkV7Wh91AMXWzAHM8Zc7w5foIbeKPzTB9Jb3n8Rk3oYWdB4A_Jt2ltxZR7APcRWG0IyDnycx5VoJ08erpju3GxLxy1dILiNWX72a25S9Yyrm1Fh6eWqHxtrhsqZmkrRym4-JZgjGuT25ptP-Tf0ChXEp9Oy2VafY---UlWYnIhutuM8Qeql3uCVIJEvhilzgK06gmUWfWZUI409JAcmXc-w5egvrI21Srqo5zbQdnsPIl2yRBRiJy4YZ-h-c7WM_Y0EMYghq1BrKeMdTU94YwRb9V0rLPfV6BN36pbf5NyooXX3sVlMzjnI4nh6u0IpcQrhd1oL7F3QAsO8MVGCWywmASjHPWQatBHt4UH0ihcq6sfPIxUCQHG8ffuWeD1uJ8KMuVubzQxqF8KnvhpmA_Th65ShbIpsv0BqAqVZ9ZNvoP627Jn5avKDQthQYCUxg>>) to enforce whatever needs enforcing, as it
>>>>>> would be up to the DPA to enforce any issues around data privacy
>>>>>> etc., etc.,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Attempting to force registrars and PP providers to make these
>>>>>> kind of evaluations is not going to work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Issues like PCI-DSS compliance are matters that should be dealt
>>>>>> with by the DPA and the banks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Forcing registrars and PP providers to start getting involved in
>>>>>> that kind of assessment isn't viable
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michele
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Mr Michele Neylon
>>>>>> Blacknight Solutions
>>>>>> Hosting, Colocation & Domains
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>>>>>> Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business
>>>>>> Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland Company No.: 370845
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: James Gannon
>>>>>> Date: Thursday 30 April 2015 07:45
>>>>>> To: Graeme Bunton,
>>>>>> "gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org%3cmailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org%3e><mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org%3cmailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org%3e%3cmailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org%3cmailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org%3e%3e>"
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] PPSAI Comment Period and Section
>>>>>> 1.3.3
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would personally like to see if there is public traction for
>>>>>> distinguishing between sites directly processing financial
>>>>>> truncations and sites who use 3rd parties for processing
>>>>>> financial transactions as this is a very important distinction. A
>>>>>> simple and I hope non-controversial additional question to the
>>>>>> ones below:
>>>>>> If so, should domains which use a third party to process
>>>>>> financial transactions (i.e Paypal, Stripe), and thus do not
>>>>>> directly process financial information, be subject to the same
>>>>>> restrictions?
>>>>>> There are strong existing distinctions both in national laws and
>>>>>> in regulations such as PCI-DSS between these two forms.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -James Gannon
>>>>>> From:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org<mailto:ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org><mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>
>>>>>> [mailto:gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Graeme
>>>>>> Bunton
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 10:17 PM
>>>>>> To: PPSAI
>>>>>> Subject: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] PPSAI Comment Period and Section 1.3.3
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks to all WG members for a very productive call earlier
>>>>>> today(and to Steve for his chairing acumen). The co-chairs and
>>>>>> staff met this afternoon to tie down two loose ends from the call.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regarding the deadline for public comments on the Initial Report,
>>>>>> we recognize there is considerable support for extending the
>>>>>> public comment period to 60 days instead of the standard 40 days
>>>>>> on which we have all been planning. We are prepared to agree to
>>>>>> this, but with the caveat that this will have repercussions on
>>>>>> the pace and intensity of our work once public comments have been
>>>>>> received. Specifically, if the public comment deadline is
>>>>>> extended until July 3 (60 days after our publication date of May
>>>>>> 4), we will need to plan on at least weekly calls throughout July
>>>>>> and August, some of which may need to be more than an hour in
>>>>>> length, to review these comments and move toward a Final Report.
>>>>>> Otherwise, we jeopardize the prospects for getting the Final
>>>>>> Report in front of the GNSO council no later than the Dublin
>>>>>> ICANN meeting. As was noted on the call today, many additional
>>>>>> steps need to take place even after this WG issues its Final
>>>>>> Report before any new accreditati
> on
>>>> system can be implemented, so the time pressure imposed by the
>>>> expiration of the Interim Specification at the end of next year is
>>>> already real.
>>>>>> Also, as previously announced over the past few weeks, if any WG
>>>>>> members (or group of members) wish to submit a brief separate or
>>>>>> additional statement for inclusion in the package posted for
>>>>>> public comment next Monday, such statements need to be received
>>>>>> by staff no later than Thursday, April 30.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lastly, the other loose end involves proposed revisions to
>>>>>> section 1.3.3 of the Initial Report, which were presented on the
>>>>>> call earlier today but which we did not have time to discuss
>>>>>> fully. We agree that this section could benefit from some
>>>>>> revision, but believe it should take the form of greater
>>>>>> concision, not additional presentation of arguments for the
>>>>>> divergent positions. Thus we suggest that section 1.3.3 be
>>>>>> revised to read as follows:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Although the WG agreed that the mere fact that a domain name is
>>>>>> registered by a commercial entity or by anyone conducting
>>>>>> commercial activity should not preclude the use of P/P services ,
>>>>>> there was disagreement over whether domain names that are
>>>>>> actively used for commercial transactions (e.g. the sale or
>>>>>> exchange of goods or services) should be prohibited from using
>>>>>> P/P services. While most WG members did not believe such a
>>>>>> prohibition is necessary or practical, some members believed that
>>>>>> registrants of such domain names should not be able to use or
>>>>>> continue using proxy or privacy services.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For those that argued that it is necessary and practical to limit
>>>>>> access to P/P services to exclude commercial entities, the
>>>>>> following text was proposed to clarify and define their position:
>>>>>> "domains used for online financial transactions for commercial
>>>>>> purpose should be ineligible for privacy and proxy registrations."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Public comment is therefore specifically invited on the following
>>>>>> questions:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Should registrants of domain names associated with commercial
>>>>>> activities and which are used for online financial transactions
>>>>>> be prohibited from using, or continuing to use, privacy and proxy
>>>>>> services?
>>>>>> * If so, will it be useful to adopt a definition of
>>>>>> "commercial" or "transactional" to define those domains for which
>>>>>> P/P service registrations should be disallowed? And if so, what
>>>>>> should the definition(s) be?"
>>>>>> * Will it be necessary to make a distinction in the WHOIS data
>>>>>> fields to be displayed as a result?
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Graeme Bunton & Steve Metalitz
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _________________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Graeme Bunton
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Manager, Management Information Systems
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Manager, Public Policy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tucows Inc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PH: 416 535 0123 ext 1634
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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