[Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Proposed draft language to update Section 1.3.3 of the WG Initial Report

Mon Sep 21 16:07:50 UTC 2015

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-Carlton

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On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 8:56 PM, Holly Raiche <h.raiche at internode.on.net>
wrote:

> I totally agree with James G, Michele, and Phil.  The last two paragraphs
> seem to fly in the face of the rest of the text.  We could not reach
> consensus on the definitions, let alone the boundaries of what might be
> excluded from use of the P/P service.  I do not understand why we are
> contemplating any further work on the issue.  The overwhelming majority of
> comments did not support it.  the WG does not support it. In Phil’s words,
> surely the horse is well and truly dead and the only appropriate action now
> is a respectful burial.
>
> Holly
>
> On 19 Sep 2015, at 9:21 am, Phil Corwin <psc at vlaw-dc.com> wrote:
>
> +1. While I was unable to make the last call those final two paragraphs
> seem out of sync with the long description of why there is no consensus on
> circumscribing the use of P/P services forcommercial or transactional
> services.
>
> Further, as regards this paragraph—
> The Working Group also considered the suggestion that*during the
> implementation phase* of the accreditation system, priority be given to
> the development of an illustrative framework mechanism for how complaints
> that a particular domain name is being used to carry out online financial
> transactions for commercial purposes should be submitted, processed,
> evaluated, and acted upon.  Concerns that a blanket prohibition against the
> use of P/P services associated with a domain name used to carry out online
> financial transactions for commercial purposes would have a chilling effect
> could be adequately addressed by developing an additional disclosure
> framework.  Requests for further legal analysis of when disclosure is
> warranted in these situations could find its home here*. This could be an
> appropriate use of implementation resources. *(emphasis added)
>
> *-- *if there is no consensus on the definitions of “online financial
> transactions for commercial purposes” or on placing any restrictions on
> them, then how could developing an “Illustrative framework mechanism”
> possibly be considered an appropriate implementation measure? There is no
> underlying policy to be implemented. Seems more like an attempt to beat a
> dead horse back to life.
>
>
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> <gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *Michele Neylon -
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> *To:* James Gannon; Mary Wong; gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Proposed draft language to update
> Section 1.3.3 of the WG Initial Report
>
> I agree strongly with James G’s assessment.
>
> If we agree that there should be no “special” restriction for commercial /
> financial usage of domains, then why on earth is this language there? I
> don’t understand it.
> Regards
>
> Michele
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> *From: *<gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of James Gannon
> *Date: *Friday 18 September 2015 20:34
> *To: *Mary Wong, "gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org"
> *Subject: *Re: [Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Proposed draft language to update
> Section 1.3.3 of the WG Initial Report
>
>
> Thanks for your work on this guys, while understanding that we will be
> discussing this on the call I will raise now my disagreement with the final
> two paragraphs on creating an alternative disclosure framework at some
> point in the future for commercial domains, I don’t feel these represent
> the consensus or agreement of the WG and would respectfully object against
> their inclusion. I was under the impression that we had agreed that the
> public had shown their overall disagreement with a framework that included
> categorisation of domains, my read of the final 2 paras seems to fly in the
> face of that agreement.
>
> -James
>
>
>
> *From: *<gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Mary Wong
> *Date: *Friday 18 September 2015 20:21
> *To: *"gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg at icann.org"
> *Subject: *[Gnso-ppsai-pdp-wg] Proposed draft language to update Section
> 1.3.3 of the WG Initial Report
>
> Dear WG members,
>
> Please find attached some proposed language from the WG co-chairs in
> respect of Section 1.3.3 of the WG’s Initial Report, i.e. the availability
> and use of P/P services for domain names associated with online financial
> transactions. The suggested language is based on the reports from Sub Team
> 2 and the WG’s deliberations on this point following review of the various
> public comments received.
>
> The co-chairs would like to include a discussion of this proposed language
> on the next WG call, and as such we are circulating it to you now so that
> you will have a chance to review it before then. If finalized and approved,
> this will be included in the WG’s Final Report on this topic.
>
> Thanks and cheers
> Mary
>
> Mary Wong
> Senior Policy Director
> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers (ICANN)
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> Email: mary.wong at icann.org
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