[Gnso-rds-pdp-1] Attendance, Adobe Connect recording and chat / Drafting team #1: Technical Issue Resolution -and- Academic or Public Interest DNS Research Wednesday, 18 October 2017 at 16:00 UTC
Julie Bisland
julie.bisland at icann.org
Wed Oct 18 17:15:27 UTC 2017
Dear all,
Please find below the Adobe Connect recording, chat and attendance from the Next-Gen RDS drafting team #1: Technical Issue Resolution -and- Academic or Public Interest DNS Research call on Wednesday, 18 October 2017 at 16:00 UTC.
Adobe Connect recording: https://participate.icann.org/p5mr9pmojar/<https://participate.icann.org/p5mr9pmojar/?OWASP_CSRFTOKEN=ba32205baa7d5c6f9f2d022df27c77f6f8ad33f70eee561c5b2448cd9588aee0>
Attendance: Michele Neylon
Greg Aaron, Greg Shatan, James Galvin, Stephanie Perrin, Nathalie Coupet
Staff: Julie Bisland
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Julie
Adobe Connect Chat:
Julie Bisland: (10/18/2017 09:38) Welcome to the Next-Gen RDS Drafting team #1: Technical Issue Resolution -and- Academic or Public Interest DNS Research on 18 October 2017 at 16:00 UTC.
Michele Neylon: (10:59) Hi - I'll dial in now
Julie Bisland: (11:00) I've informed the operator to watch for you, MIchele
James Galvin (Afilias): (11:02) Only just realized I need to dial-in. Will do that now.
Michele Neylon: (11:02) adobe audio should work
Michele Neylon: (11:02) for values of work ..
James Galvin (Afilias): (11:03) not giving me that option
James Galvin (Afilias): (11:03) it's telling me I have to dial in
Julie Bisland: (11:04) my fault, James, try now
Julie Bisland: (11:04) you should be able to 'connect audio'
Julie Bisland: (11:05) audio is only James and you
James Galvin (Afilias): (11:06) now on Adobe audio
Stephanie Perrin: (11:10) Can we also join other groups?
Stephanie Perrin: (11:10) I want to join law enforcement
Stephanie Perrin: (11:11) are these meetings being archived?
Michele Neylon: (11:11) Stephanie - they're being archived
Julie Bisland: (11:11) greg, we can't hear you
Stephanie Perrin: (11:11) great thanks
Greg Aaron: (11:11) Dayjob interferes sometimes
Michele Neylon: (11:12) :)
Greg Aaron: (11:14) dialing in on eh line but lo moderator is avaialble to take my passcode
Michele Neylon: (11:15) Julia can you assist him please?
Michele Neylon: (11:15) Julie even - sorry
Julie Bisland: (11:15) yes, chatting the operator now
Greg Aaron: (11:16) I am on on the line now
Julie Bisland: (11:16) I see you're on, super, thanks Greg
Stephanie Perrin: (11:19) Hopefully not.
Stephanie Perrin: (11:19) My point, in case anyone missed it, is that this is a bit of a red herring.
Stephanie Perrin: (11:20) I did not say it is not legitimiate, if I recall correctly.
Greg Shatan: (11:21) if I understand the aim of
Greg Shatan: (11:22) this group, it is understand facts rather than to express opinions.
Greg Shatan: (11:22) if
Greg Shatan: (11:22) if that research is happening then it is on topic for this group.
Stephanie Perrin: (11:23) Fine.
Stephanie Perrin: (11:23) I will drop any objections I have to us pursuing this
Greg Shatan: (11:23) we are trying to uncover the facts as we know them to be from our area of experience.
Stephanie Perrin: (11:26) My recollection of this topic in the EWG discussions was that the topic was not dealt with extensively at all, and thus remains very squishy.
Greg Shatan: (11:26) not on audio yet
Julie Bisland: (11:31) he's just joining audio
Greg Shatan: (11:35) happy to be Mr shatan or Greg s.
Greg Shatan: (11:36) or Greg a and Greg b.
Julie Bisland: (11:37) no audio, Stephanie
Julie Bisland: (11:38) please note: Nathalie Coupet has joined the audio bridge and is muted.
Stephanie Perrin: (11:39) It is not a purpose, it is a usage of the data.
Stephanie Perrin: (11:39) I think it makes it more clear.
Stephanie Perrin: (11:40) It is a current useage. In fact we have two very separate usages to grapple wth
Stephanie Perrin: (11:41) +1
Stephanie Perrin: (11:44) Why are we describing the non-academic research as public interest research? It opens up a giant can of worms, namely the as yet un-defined natrue of the public interest at ICANN.
Stephanie Perrin: (11:45) And if a legitimate company (eg Symantec) does research on the DNS in order to gain market dominance in a particular security matter, is that market research, product (eg algorithm) , or "public interest" research. I think this is a very dicey area, diffcult to define.
Stephanie Perrin: (11:46) that was product development research
Stephanie Perrin: (11:50) wednesday for me, so monday tuesday would be better
Stephanie Perrin: (11:51) Thanks!
Greg Aaron: (11:51) Can staff post pages 2 and 3 in a Google doc?
Greg Aaron: (11:51) Thanks
Stephanie Perrin: (11:51) Lovely. If we could take over the Tuesday regular slot it will be great
James Galvin (Afilias): (11:51) bye all thanks
Greg Shatan: (11:52) bye
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