[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] WG Rhetoric

[Carlton Samuels]

I agree, due deference to context and intent.

-Carlton


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On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 8:56 AM, Gomes, Chuck <cgomes at verisign.com> wrote:

> Greg is correct. We must be able to disagree constructively if we expect
> to do our job. And we also need to try to stay on task or we will find
> ourselves being  very ineffective.
>
> Chuck
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 5, 2016, at 2:50 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I don't think Chuck was objecting to divergence or disagreements in
> opinions or matters of substance in any way.  Rather, Chuck was remarking
> on an elevated level of rhetoric and potentially offensive expression
> apparent on the list.  This tends to cloud rather than clarify areas of
> substantive disagreement, and to slow down rather than speed up the process
> of moving toward consensus.
>
> My father used to refer to this as "generating more heat than light."  In
> my view, we should strive to disagree without being disagreeable, and seek
> to understand other views rather than to dismiss than out of hand (e.g.,
> because an email response doesn't come back fast enough to suit).  That
> doesn't mean we have to treat each other with kid gloves; rather, there is
> a balance to be struck.  It's Chuck's role to notice when we are out of
> balance, and to restore that balance.  I fully support Chuck's
> intervention, both in substance and in timing.
>
> Greg
>
> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Farell Folly <farellfolly at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> However, divergence is sometimes needed to make a better agreement and
>>> implement a sustainable solution.
>>
>>
>> ​+1
>>
>> I took a vacation. Seeing I have always invested my usual 3 weeks of
>> vacation time to ICANN endeavours, this is the first time in almost 10
>> years!
>>
>> The narrative we're supposed to credit says there are no agendas in an
>> ICANN/GNSO PDP WG. I generously grant that opinion status.
>>
>> The airing of disagreements, even to the point of what diplomats term 'a
>> full and frank expression of views', sooner rather than later, is the best
>> approach for negotiating consensus. Might sound counterintuitive at first
>> blush but......​
>>
>> -Carlton
>>
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