[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] possible requirements from GAC / law enforcement recommended documents

Catalyst-Vaibhav Aggarwal va at bladebrains.com
Thu Jul 14 17:02:59 UTC 2016


Rob 

I hope you reply to Mine, Terri¹s & Kiran¹s Mail ?

Regards
-VA

From:  <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Terri Stumme
<terri.stumme at legitscript.com>
Date:  Thursday, July 14, 2016 at 10:08 PM
To:  Rob Golding <rob.golding at astutium.com>
Cc:  <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
Subject:  Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] possible requirements from GAC / law
enforcement recommended documents

Law enforcement never requested "personal details, home address etc of
senior STAFF of a Registrar listed on a website." Law enforcement requested
only that the names of the executives be posted on the registrar's website,
and that contact information for the registrar; i.e., company address and
telephone number, not the home address of senior staff.

On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 1:35 AM, Rob Golding <rob.golding at astutium.com>
wrote:
> On 2016-07-14 08:58, Catalyst-Vaibhav Aggarwal wrote:
>> So now v agree to say that GAC / Law enforcement is over reaching
>> and suggestions, pants made are baseless and have no argument.
> 
> You appear to turn many ideas / comments you don't understand into some sort
> of personal attack.
> 
> Perhaps if you had
> * read the document
> * understood the document
> * attended any of the multiple Registrar&LEA meetings where some of their
> wants (most of which they never expected to get and many of which they
> couldn't provide any reason for asking for)
> you wouldn't be jumping so quickly to these weird conclusions.
> 
>> YET we come back to the table and talk of Privacy and other related
>> factors. How can it be ?
> 
> One (of many) examples ..
> 
> LEAs wanted the personal details, home address etc of senior STAFF of a
> Registrar listed on a website.
> 
> Not simply provided (as is law in most locales) to the company regulating
> authority in that region - most of whom DO NOT make that information public
> without a warrant for very valid reasons
> 
> Not even just submitted to ICANN (as indeed much information about the
> management of a registrar already is) for them to know / leak
> 
> But published for anyone and everyone on the registration website
> 
> If someone LEA or otherwise wants to to talk to my Registrar, they can do so
> at the office (by appointment) or by phone or by email or through the ticket
> system or any number of other *appropriate* and *documented* methods - they DO
> NOT need to know about and turn up at my HOME address
> 
> Rob
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