[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] @EXT Use case - LEA

Volker Greimann vgreimann at key-systems.net
Tue Jul 26 09:00:46 UTC 2016


I also fail to see the difference between a webspace rented for illegal 
purposes and a domain name registered for the same purpose. Other than 
one has public details and the other does not.


Am 26.07.2016 um 09:32 schrieb David Cake:
> At a first glance, this seems contradictory. You state that the web sites are compromised - then assume that not just some WHOIS data is valid, but enough of it to find cross-correlations. If the domains were compromised, this would be meaningless - a linked email address would just indicate that multiple sites belonging to the same original person were compromised at the same time, presumably by compromise of a shared host or shared controlling organisation, and its rare that sites are compromised unless its entirely done by via DNS mechanisms, in which case we could probably deal with that issue (stolen domains) without bringing content into it.
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> So your use case assumes that the sites were not compromised, but registered for illegal purpose, which is an entirely different situation. This seems like a poorly constructed use case to me, in that while it seems designed to appear very urgent and emotive by focussing on content that no one would support, the actual DNS scenario we are trying to address here is very unclear.
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> David
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>> On 26 Jul 2016, at 6:25 AM, Mounier, Grégory <gregory.mounier at europol.europa.eu> wrote:
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>> Dear all,
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>> Please find attached a use case which shows how accurate WHOIS information, combined with other types of evidence, can help attributing crime online.
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>> Regards,
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>> Greg
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