[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Notes and action items from Next-Generation RDS PDP WG Meeting

[Rod Rasmussen]

One simple point I’d like to remind folks about when discussing these issues: a website ≠ a domain name’s entire Internet presence or impact.  There are other protocols besides HTTP/S that tie to domain names, with two primary examples that are continuously used and/or abused being e-mail and authoritative DNS nameserver domains themselves.  There are many others.

Cheers,

Rod

On Feb 29, 2016, at 3:23 AM, karnika <karnika at sethassociates.com> wrote:

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: karnika [mailto:karnika at sethassociates.com]
> Sent: 29 February 2016 16:53
> To: 'Rob Golding' <rob.golding at astutium.com>
> Cc:
> Subject: RE: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Notes and action items from Next-Generation
> RDS PDP WG Meeting
> 
> Rob,
> 
> I totally agree with you on this point. Internet users must have a point of
> checking out who a website belongs to , details of registrant etc and these
> should be verified. Perfectly ok if it is a layered access but something
> authentic is better than nothing.
> 
> Warm regards,
> 
> Karnika Seth
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
> [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Rob Golding
> Sent: 29 February 2016 16:09
> To: 'gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org' <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
> Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Notes and action items from Next-Generation
> RDS PDP WG Meeting
> 
>> ......and random Internet users also should have a right to find out
>> who they are dealing with online.
> 
> Yes, and in civilised countries that is dealt with by requirements on what
> must be on paperwork, websites etc.
> 
> If someone wants to know about ebay, they'll look at the ebay website, and
> _maybe_ if they're tech-aware, the ssl certificate - they're exceptionally
> unlilkely to be looking at ebay.tld whois
> 
> If someone wants to know about a shopify site, they'll be looking at the
> shopify about pages, nothing on shopify's whois would be of any relevance
> 
> If someone wants to know about a twitter user, they'll look at the profile
> page, it's irrelevant what details are shown on the twitter.com whois
> 
> and so on.
> 
> The whois-tech-contact has been utterly pointless for 20 years - the tech
> role has long since been subsumed by the domain admin role, with tech just
> being yet another email that gets spammed-to-death
> 
> The whois-admin contact is primarily a reminder to a registrant who their
> originally web-designer was, and isn't something most registrants would know
> to look at
> 
> As to whether the RNH details are useful and should be public is debatable.
> 
> 
> Rob
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