[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Materials for next WG call

Sun Mar 20 19:29:19 UTC 2016

Thanks Lisa and thanks to Ayden for his advanced search skills which 
yielded results!  I hesitate to ask, but I want to see all the comments 
to the earlier WHOIS studies and task forces as well....and I cannot 
find them in the Archives.  Can we please have these things pulled up?  
I understand that at least in theory the questions we have been handed 
are supposed to be a distillation of earlier work, but I would certainly 
like to read all the earlier work.  As long as we are going to go at 
this for five years, we might as well get informed....
Kind regards,
Stephanie

On 2016-03-20 14:08, Lisa Phifer wrote:
> Thanks Stephanie.
>
> As you found, the HTML version of the 2007 WHOIS TF's final report is 
> indeed the official version 
> (http://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/whois-privacy/whois-services-final-tf-report-12mar07.htm 
> ). I will add the English PDF printed at the time of the report's 
> submission (thanks Ayden!) to this WG's wiki background materials page 
> for ease of printing.
>
> Please also note the RDS PDP Issue Report's Section 3.2.2, WHOIS Task 
> Force Final Report (2007), which concludes:
>
> *The final report of this [2007 WHOIS] Task Force provides an 
> excellent source of information for learning the types of data 
> collected and the purposes of data collection. However, the GNSO did 
> /not /adopt the Task Force proposals. Instead, the GNSO recommended 
> pursuing formal, targeted studies to generate empirical data to inform 
> future policy discussions.
>
> *As you highlighted below, it is this RDS PDP WG which is now tasked 
> with redefining purpose.
>
> This was done because the 2007 task force - along with prior and 
> subsequent GNSO efforts - could not reach consensus on policy reforms 
> that hinge upon this question of purpose. Following further analysis 
> by the 2012 WHOIS RT and SSAC in SAC055, the board requested this RDS 
> PDP to take a different, more structured approach to help this WG 
> achieve consensus, decomposing this complex issue into component 
> questions that all reflect this WG's answer to that fundamental 
> question of purpose.
>
> Best, Lisa
>
>
> At 08:09 PM 3/19/2016, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>> Thanks very much for these materials Lisa.  Please let me reiterate a 
>> point that I guess has not registered yet.  The first question we 
>> have to ask is "what is the purpose of collecting, using, storing, 
>> and disclosing registration data?  If we agree on the narrow 
>> definition that was defined in the 2007 WHOIS task force report, then 
>> many of the current uses, as has been pointed out by the global data 
>> commissioners repeatedly, are not legitimate.  So lets agree on the 
>> purpose of data collection first. I am deeply concerned about the 
>> discussion of "requirements".  Here is the 2007 definition:
>> /The GNSO Council recommends that the WHOIS task force use the 
>> following definition: "The purpose of the gTLD WHOIS service is to 
>> provide information sufficient to contact a responsible party for a 
>> particular gTLD domain name who can resolve, or reliably pass on data 
>> to a party who can resolve, issues related to the configuration of 
>> the records associated with the domain name within a DNS name 
>> server." as a working definition to allow the task force to proceed 
>> on terms of reference (2), (3), and (4)
>>
>> /Note:  the ICANN wiki says this is what we are doing:
>> " The *Next-Generation gTLD Registration Directory Services to 
>> Replace Whois Policy Development Process Working Group* (RDS-PDP-WG) 
>> has been established to redefine the purpose of gTLD registration 
>> data and to consider how to safeguard this data. It is also tasked 
>> with proposing a model for gTLD registration directory services that 
>> will address accuracy, privacy, and access issues. "
>> If we are redefining the purpose of gTLD registration data, we should 
>> address that question first.
>> cheers Stephanie
>>
>> On 2016-03-19 11:18, Lisa Phifer wrote:
>>> Greetings all,
>>>
>>> Attached please find materials developed by the leadership team to 
>>> facilitate discussion during the next WG call. These materials include:
>>>
>>> (1) _A summary table of all work plan changes proposed thus far._ 
>>> This serves as a consolidated record of all suggestions made to date 
>>> during WG calls, meetings, and on the email list. Staff will 
>>> continue to add any new suggestions made between now and the next WG 
>>> call as new rows to the end of this table. This table is a tool to 
>>> help all WG members easily recall and consider all of the 
>>> suggestions made by everyone, before attempting to agree upon 
>>> resolutions. In creating this table, we tried to extract and 
>>> accurately paraphrase changes and rationale from lengthier email 
>>> exchanges, but the WG's email archive ( 
>>> http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rds-pdp-wg 
>>> <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rds-pdp-wg>) can be consulted 
>>> for all email message text in full. Italicized "Notes" have also 
>>> been included to provide linkage between suggestions and related 
>>> charter questions.
>>>
>>> (2) _A mind map of fundamental questions and sub-questions._ This 
>>> serves as a concise illustration of the fundamental questions and 
>>> sub-questions detailed in the Issue Report and Charter. This map can 
>>> be adjusted as the WG agrees upon refinements to questions 
>>> (including but not limited to sequencing) and adds new subquestions, 
>>> inter-dependencies, further inputs, and detailed policies that 
>>> should be "parked" for consideration during phases 2/3. This map is 
>>> a tool to help the WG better understand and reach agreement on 
>>> fundamental questions to be addressed in phase 1 by providing an 
>>> overall picture as well as an opportunity to start thinking about 
>>> additional sub-questions and whether there are certain questions 
>>> that need to be considered before being able to address other 
>>> questions, etc.
>>>
>>> (3) _A simple text listing of the questions and sub-questions in the 
>>> mind map_ - for those who may find a simple bullet list of questions 
>>> in text format more useful than a mind map.
>>>
>>> We hope that the WG will find these materials to be a helpful 
>>> starting point to facilitate further WG discussion on the phase 1 
>>> work plan.
>>>
>>> In addition, the leadership team is working on an annotated draft of 
>>> the work plan itself, to be distributed on Monday for use during 
>>> Tuesday's RDS PDP WG call.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Lisa
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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