[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Some reg'n data I think necessary (was Re: GNSO Next-Gen RDS PDP Working Group teleconference)

Kathy Kleiman kathy at kathykleiman.com
Tue Mar 22 15:11:32 UTC 2016


+1. The questions below are the ones we should be asking.
Kathy


On 3/22/2016 9:14 AM, James Galvin wrote:
>
>
> On 21 Mar 2016, at 15:13, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 09:55:48AM -0400, James Galvin wrote:
>>> If the starting point is that the purpose of registration data is to 
>>> support
>>> the operation of a domain name on the Internet, then I’m supportive 
>>> of your
>>> list and the explanations.
>>>
>>> However, I do not believe this is the cornerstone purpose of 
>>> registration
>>> data.
>>
>> That would be bizarre.  These are domain names in the Internet's DNS.
>> If the purpose is not to support their operation on the Internet (or,
>> in a degenerate case, their non-operation on the Internet --
>> i.e. defensive registration), what business does ICANN have with them
>> at all?
>
> It is only bizarre to your frame of reference.
>
> While it is true that a good portion of the work that is conducted by 
> the ICANN community is around domain names that are “on the Internet”, 
> the fact is there is no requirement that a domain name be operational 
> in any way.
>
> It is a fair question for this group to ask whether that is the 
> degenerative case or that is the baseline case.
>
> The answer matters to answering the question, “what is the purpose of 
> registration data?”
>
> The operational data you describe is not necessary for domain names 
> that are not operational.  The operation of a domain name could become 
> one of many use cases to be considered separately.
>
> Today there is a tendency to require the operational data, even for 
> names that are not operational.  So we’ve setup circumstances where 
> registrants have to “lie” or at least mislead, in order to buy a 
> domain name that will not be operational.  This is similar to the 
> desire for “privacy” and yet we require public contact information, or 
> the desire to mitigate spam and yet we require the display of email 
> addresses.
>
> My point is simply that this distinction matters.  Personally I don’t 
> have a strong opinion as to which way it goes, but it will affect how 
> we specify if and when operational data is collected or required.  And 
> then whether or not we have to talk about access to the data.
>
> Jim
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