[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Some reg'n data I think necessary (was Re: GNSO Next-Gen RDS PDP Working Group teleconference)

[Volker Greimann]

Collection is not the only issue. Another issue is transfer of such data 
to third parties and publishing it, albeit to a access-limited database.

With regard to collection, such collection must have a business purpose, 
i.e. be required for providing the service or needs to be covered by a 
(revocable) agreement of the individual whose data is to be collected.

If you are looking at the larger pricture, registering a domain name is 
not that different from applying for a phone number or being assigned an 
IP address when you access the internet, yet in those cases the data is 
not published anywhere and with regard to IP addresses only kept for the 
time needed to provide (and invoice the service).
You can opt out of having your phone number published, of course.


Volker


Am 22.03.2016 um 13:29 schrieb Andrew Sullivan:
> Hi,
>
> First, when you send to the list could you please use
> multipart/alternative?  (Your mailer probably has some setting about
> "HTML-only" vs "plain text alternative".  You can send both.)  I don't
> use an HTML-rendering mail reader.  Thanks.
>
> More substantively,
>
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 11:22:13PM -0400, Sam Lanfranco wrote:
>
>>      My brain may still be fuzzy from travel but it seems that dozens of
>>      other online services routinely allow one to contact a party without
>>      the party's name being published.
> I would also be content if this WG could talk only about what's
> published in the RDS, and under what terms.  Unfortunately, the
> charter also asks us to talk about what data is collected.  Your
> example cases like dating services, it's true, do not publish the
> names; but the services most certainly _collect_ that data.  (If they
> didn't, Ashley Madison's data breach wouldn't have been a big deal.)
>
>>      Ability to reach an owner, and
>>      ability to know who the owner is, are two different abilities.
> I agree with this.
>
>>      If an
>>      owner refused to disclose or respond, that is their right.
> Under some circumstances, I agree with this too.  I suspect that this
> is an example where differential data access would be a big help.
>
>>      If they
>>      are being abusive with the domain name, then the registrar is
>>      involved.
> This isn't always true.  For instance, mail abuse frequently does not
> involve the registrar.  And registrars have limitations on what they
> can do depending on local contract law and so on, as well.
> Regardless, the above argument isn't one for the premise that the data
> shouldn't be collected.  Just that it shouldn't be published for
> anonymous access on the Internet.
>
> Best regards,
>
> A
>
>

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