[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] @EXT: RE: For your review - updated RDS Statement of Purpose

Stephanie Perrin stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
Tue Oct 4 13:11:58 UTC 2016


+1  The data has to be as accurate as is practical, for the original 
purpose.  This is once reason why defining the original purpose is 
necessary and it is important to be careful.

Stephanie Perrin
On 2016-10-04 05:26, Volker Greimann wrote:
>
> As to accuracy, there is a fine line between absolute accuracy and 
> reasonable efforts ensuring accuracy that must be navigated.
>
> If we as a group come down with a decision that the data must be 100% 
> accurate, all the time, forever, then we can stop right there since 
> such a goal can only be achieved in cloud coocoo land.
>
> Reasonable accuracy can probably be achieved, but we should stay away 
> from absolutes as they will become a cost trap and implementation 
> nightmare.
>
> So when everyone is demanding accuracy, we should first define what 
> that actually is supposed to mean for the purposes of this group and 
> the policy we are trying to create.
>
> So what does "accurate" mean?
>
> VG
>
>
> Am 04.10.2016 um 10:51 schrieb Nick Shorey:
>> All,
>>
>> Support Gregory's points here - whatever data is maintained in any 
>> potential new RDS - it's important that this data be accurate.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Nick
>>
>> *Nick Shorey BA(Hons) MSc.*
>> Senior Policy Advisor | Global Internet Governance
>> Department for Culture, Media & Sport
>> HM Government | United Kingdom
>>
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>> On 3 October 2016 at 22:39, Victoria Sheckler <vsheckler at riaa.com 
>> <mailto:vsheckler at riaa.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     +1
>>
>>     *From:*gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
>>     <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>
>>     [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
>>     <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *Terri
>>     Stumme
>>     *Sent:* Monday, October 3, 2016 10:09 AM
>>     *To:* Richard Leaning <rleaning at ripe.net <mailto:rleaning at ripe.net>>
>>     *Cc:* gnso-rds-pdp-wg <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org
>>     <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>>
>>     *Subject:* Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] @EXT: RE: For your review -
>>     updated RDS Statement of Purpose
>>
>>     +1
>>
>>     On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 9:58 AM, Richard Leaning
>>     <rleaning at ripe.net <mailto:rleaning at ripe.net>> wrote:
>>
>>         Dear All,
>>
>>         I would also like to support the views of Greg. What ever the
>>         RDS looks like in the future, it must be accurate.
>>
>>         Cheers
>>
>>         Dick
>>
>>         Richard Leaning
>>
>>         External Relations
>>
>>         RIPE NCC
>>
>>             On 3 Oct 2016, at 13:47, Gomes, Chuck
>>             <cgomes at verisign.com <mailto:cgomes at verisign.com>> wrote:
>>
>>             Thank you very much Greg for the excellent input and
>>             especially for connecting it to comments made by others.
>>
>>             Chuck
>>
>>             *From:*gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
>>             <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>
>>             [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
>>             <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>]*On Behalf
>>             Of*Mounier, Grégory
>>             *Sent:*Monday, October 03, 2016 5:45 AM
>>             *To:*'Marika Konings' <marika.konings at icann.org
>>             <mailto:marika.konings at icann.org>>;
>>             gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
>>             *Subject:*[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] @EXT: RE: For your review -
>>             updated RDS Statement of Purpose
>>
>>             Dear All,
>>
>>             Thank you for the work that has gone into the drafting of
>>             this statement of purpose.I wanted to briefly share some
>>             comments on version 6 of the draft Statement of Purpose
>>             and express support to some of the suggestions put
>>             forward by Greg Aaron, Marc Anderson and Stephanie Perrin.
>>
>>             _First, on “specific purposes”:_
>>
>>             Ibelieve that the specific purposes currently listed
>>             under 3a) and 3b) should not be regarded as secondary to
>>             1) and 2). They should therefore be listed as 3) and 4)as
>>             suggested by Marc Anderson and Greg Aaron. There is
>>             certainly a TLD Operations perspective to the purpose of
>>             an RDS, but we must also recognize that operations of
>>             TLDs have socio-economic impacts that lead to other
>>             purposes of an RDS, as is the case for:
>>
>>             ·facilitating contact with registrants,
>>
>>             ·registrars and proxy/privacy service providers enabling
>>             release of accurate gTLD registration data.
>>
>>             _Second, on the notion of accuracy:_
>>
>>             Although Isupport the simplification to the language of
>>             specific purposes 3a) and 3b) (which should be renumbered
>>             3 and 4), as proposed by Marc, Ishare Greg’s views
>>             thatthe notion of “accurate” gTLD registration data
>>             should not just be deemed a feature, but rather an
>>             integral part of the purpose considering the importance
>>             of maintaining a repository of accurate data form a
>>             public policy perspective.As youknow, the GAC has
>>             consistently advised that gTLD WHOIS services “/should
>>             provide sufficient and accurate data about domain name
>>             registrations and registrants subject to national
>>             safeguards for individuals’ privacy/” (per its2007 GAC
>>             WHOIS Principles
>>             <https://gacweb.icann.org/download/attachments/28278834/WHOIS_principles.pdf>,
>>             which it referred to in its2015 comments on the RDS PDP
>>             Preliminary Issue Report
>>             <https://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-rds-prelim-issue-13jul15/msg00012.html>).I
>>             therefore support Greg Aaron’s suggestion to add a fifth
>>             purpose:“A purpose of a system to collect, maintain, and
>>             provide access to gTLD registration data (hereafter
>>             referred to as “the RDS”) is to collect and provide
>>             information that is accurate.”
>>
>>             I amalso supportive of the simplification to the goals
>>             and criteria proposed by Stephanie Perrin asIsee value in
>>             keeping this statement of purpose as succinct as possible.
>>
>>             Best Regards
>>
>>             Greg Mounier
>>
>>             Europol – EC3
>>
>>             *From:*gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
>>             <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>[mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
>>             <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>]*On Behalf
>>             Of*Marika Konings
>>             *Sent:*28 September 2016 19:12
>>             *To:*gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org
>>             <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
>>             *Subject:*[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] For your review - updated RDS
>>             Statement of Purpose
>>
>>             Dear All,
>>
>>             Please find attached for your review the updated
>>             statement of purpose which aims to reflect the changes
>>             discussed during yesterday’s meeting. You are all
>>             encouraged to review this version, especially the section
>>             ‘Specific Purposes for Registration Data and Registration
>>             Directory Services’, and share your input with the
>>             mailing list prior to next week’s meeting. Also note that
>>             a couple of WG members (Marc & Fabrizio) volunteered to
>>             provide updated language for two specific parts of the
>>             document which have been flagged accordingly, so please
>>             hold your comments on those parts until the proposed
>>             language has been circulated.
>>
>>             Best regards,
>>
>>             Marika
>>
>>             *Marika Konings*
>>
>>             Senior Policy Director & Team Leader for the
>>             GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
>>             (ICANN)
>>
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