[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] FW: Notes from today's RDS PDP WG meeting
Volker Greimann
vgreimann at key-systems.net
Thu Sep 22 15:09:57 UTC 2016
Not sure if necessary as cases are regularly brought against domains
under privacy services where the real registrant is unknown as well, but
as we are not dicussing merits quite yet: Sure, why not? ;-)
VG
Am 22.09.2016 um 16:59 schrieb Gomes, Chuck:
>
> Should an additional possible requirement (or requirements) be added
> to cover the UDRP and URS need or is that already covered?
>
> Chuck
>
> *From:*gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
> [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Greg Aaron
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 22, 2016 7:55 AM
> *To:* Volker Greimann; gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] FW: Notes from today's RDS PDP WG meeting
>
> A parallel case: The UDRP and URS policies rely on contact data that
> is published publicly in gTLD registration directory services. The
> reason is so identify that potential complainants can see it and make
> decisions about whether to mount a challenge, and so that UDRP and URS
> dispute resolution service providers can use the data to send the
> required communications.
>
> Could UDRP be altered to work without published contact data? Maybe
> it’s not impossible. But we can probably agree that the requirement
> currently exists – the current policy task assumes and necessitates
> data availability.
>
> Besides, the exercise here is for the WG to compile a list of
> “possible requirements.” The group agreed to be liberal in the
> listings and debate their merits later.
>
> All best,
>
> --Greg
>
> *From:*gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
> <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>
> [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Volker Greimann
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 22, 2016 5:27 AM
> *To:* gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] FW: Notes from today's RDS PDP WG meeting
>
> Hi Greg,
>
> you said it would be difficult but not it would be impossible, right?
> So I would assume the contractual requirement would still be
> accomplishable even without special access. A lot of the required data
> would also be in the registry databases as well, such as nameserver
> data, registration dates, etc, so no access to the RDS would be
> required for that purpose.
>
> Best,
>
> Volker
>
> Am 22.09.2016 um 00:04 schrieb Greg Aaron:
>
> Derived requirement: the data must be available for this stated
> purpose. If something is required (as in this case by a
> contract), then one must have the means to accomplish it.
>
> *From:*Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes at verisign.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 21, 2016 5:58 PM
> *To:* Greg Aaron <gca at icginc.com> <mailto:gca at icginc.com>
> *Cc:* gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] FW: Notes from today's RDS PDP WG
> meeting
>
> I don't question that at all Greg but what is the possible
> requirement?
>
> Chuck
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Sep 21, 2016, at 5:53 PM, Greg Aaron <gca at icginc.com
> <mailto:gca at icginc.com>> wrote:
>
> Dear Chuck:
>
> It is very difficult to perform DA-D43-R03 (assess whether
> domains in the TLD are being used to perpetrate security
> threats) without looking at registration data. Review of
> registration dates, nameservers, contact data, etc. are often
> required to perform thatdiligence.
>
> BTW, this GAC safeguard was then incorporated into the nTLD
> contracts, Specification 11 paragraph 3b, which says that
> registry operators are also required to record actions taken
> as a result of these periodic security checks.
>
> So I suggest we leave it in.
>
> All best,
>
> --Greg
>
> *From:*gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
> <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>[mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Gomes, Chuck
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 21, 2016 5:27 PM
> *To:* gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
> *Subject:* [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] FW: Notes from today's RDS PDP WG
> meeting
>
> In my review of the eight (8) possible requirements in the
> attached file, I think it is obvious that none of them are
> relevant to the RDS and hence should be deleted from the v.4
> of the triaged list of possible requirements. If anyone,
> disagrees with my assessment, please identify any of the
> possible requirements that you think are relevant to the RDS
> and explain why so that the WG can discuss. If not, I suggest
> that in our next meeting that quickly finalize a decision to
> delete them all.
>
> Chuck
>
> *From:*gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
> <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>[mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Lisa Phifer
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 21, 2016 2:54 AM
> *To:* gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Notes from today's RDS PDP WG
> meeting
>
> Dear all,
>
> With regard to action item #3 below, attached please find a
> small excerpt from draft 4 of the triaged possible
> requirements list, containing only those PRs marked "??" for
> review and possible deletion. During triage, we could not find
> a direct link between these PRs and registration directory
> services and so were unable to assign them codes and
> keywords. WG members are therefore asked to consider if and
> how these flagged PRs are relevant to the RDS.
>
> Best regards,
> Lisa
>
>
> At 12:33 AM 9/21/2016, Marika Konings wrote:
>
> /3. Review Draft 4 of triaged possible requirements list
> /· Discuss possible deletion of flagged PRs (those marked "??")
> · Discuss WG feedback on phase, code, and keyword mappings
> · Identify essential missing inputs (if any) and plan to
> include them
>
> *Action item #2*: WG members to review latest version of
> triaged possible requirements, including specific questions
> identified, in order to commence deliberations.
>
> *Action item #3*: Staff to circulate possible deletion of
> flagged PRs to mailing list to encourage input by WG members
> ahead of next week's meeting
>
>
>
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