[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] FW: Notes from today's RDS PDP WG meeting

[Greg Shatan]

I would strongly object to any of those items being characterized as
"content."  And even if they were "content," that is not a per se exclusion
in any way.

It's more appropriate to characterize them as "use" and more specifically
"abuse."

Many, if not most, threats to security and other forms of abuse involve
both the registration of a domain name and the use of that domain name in
some fashion.  It's clear and critical that we need to allow for elements
of use to be included in the purposes for which RDS data is used.

This work is done now, regularly and successfully, using WHOIS data among
other things.  We have no mandate to restrict these uses (and as Greg A.
notes, we're at a point where discussion of restrictions are premature).

As a final note, discussions about whether something is "required" or
"difficult" or "impossible" are largely beside the point, and also raise
serious concerns.  If a particular use of RDS data is excluded because it's
not absolutely required in every instance, or because it's "difficult" but
not "impossible" to work without it, there are significant costs and
consequences that would arise from any such exclusion.  Something that is
more difficult is more costly, more complex, more time-consuming, more
prone to failure, more burdensome and/or more resource-intensive.
Difficulty is a deterrent.  We have no mandate as a group to make things
more difficult for current users of RDS-type data or to deter legitimate
activity.

Greg Shatan





On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Rob Golding <rob.golding at astutium.com>
wrote:

> Safeguard 3: Should Registry Operators undertake periodic security
>> checks to analyze whether domains in its gTLD are being used for
>> threats to security, such as pharming, phishing, malware and botnets?
>>
>
> None of which requires "registration" data ...
>
> pharming = content
> phishing = content
> malware = content
> botnets = traffic [and are primarily ip based not domain based]
> etc
>
>
> Rob
>
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