[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] international law enforcement association resolution regarding domain registration data

[Hollenbeck, Scott]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Keating [mailto:Paul at law.es]
> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 9:31 AM
> To: Hollenbeck, Scott <shollenbeck at verisign.com>; 'gnso-rds-pdp-
> wg at icann.org' <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] international law enforcement
> association resolution regarding domain registration data
>
> I would like to understand this further and forgive my ignorance.  Could
> you please explain what you mean by the following:
>
> We already have "anonymized unique identifiers" in the form of contact
> identifiers, sometimes also known as "handles" (but not to be confused
> with handle system (RFC 3650) identifiers). For example, a WHOIS query for
> a particular domain to one particular thick RDDS registry service will
> return a registrant identifier of "C270-LRMS" in addition to the more
> identifiable information that we're all familiar with. RDAP also supports
> these identifiers, so they are available for purposes as we see fit to
> recommend.

[SAH] It may help to read through the original note from Theo to better understand his original question. Here's a link to the message:

http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-rds-pdp-wg/2017-March/002444.html

As I understand it, Theo asked if an RDS could use a form of identification that can't be faked. I suggested that we already have such identifiers in place today that are generated and assigned to RDS contacts. They're not very prominent, but they do exist and as I see it there's no need to invent something else if they can be used to meet a need for a unique, anonymous form of contact identification.

> Also, although WHOIS information itself is not always helpful, WHOIS
> combined with other data (including DNS and historical data) can be
> extremely helpful.  So, I am not at all certain as to what is intended by
> the message or what the solution proposed is or how it works.

[SAH] Theo's note provides more context.

Scott