[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Dangers of public whois

Volker Greimann vgreimann at key-systems.net
Fri Feb 17 16:50:14 UTC 2017


Hi Denny,

nice to meet you.
> I'll give you an example;
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> Let's say that I am a widget manufacture, and I have a new widget that
> I'm selling -- But this widget has a flaw where that at may burst into
> flames and explode.
>
> There have only been 100 sold and of those 78 have exploded... But I
> have 1,000,000 more of these things in storage and not currently in use
> by anyone.  What percentage of exploding widgets would you recommend
> reporting?
This is a completely different analogy as Spamhaus does not look at all 
domains registered/sold, nor does it look at all domains that are being 
used, but only at those domains you have "observed" without ever going 
into much detail how this is determined beyond that they are "showing up 
in mail feeds and related DNS traffic". You even admit that domains that 
are "used for traffic outside of our systems' focus" are not included in 
your summary. As your focus seems to be mainly mail and fraud 
prevention, this method sounds like it eliminates a majority of domains 
simply because they are not in your focus of preventing spam.
Correct me if I misunderstand the statements on your website.
> Spamhaus doesn't really care about domains parked and attempting to be
> sold by some domainer, nor do we care about domains registered
> defensively in order to protect one's brand.  Honestly, there is a
> number of good reasons that domains exist, but are not actively used.
Or are actively used but "for traffic outside of our systems' focus".


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