[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Principle on Proportionality for "Thin Data"access

Thu Jun 1 13:50:20 UTC 2017

The question of whether data should be accessible only for specific
purposes, and whether the public needs access to the information only
arises within the context of pseudonymous or personal data. I can't imagine
a justification for us being asked to apply a data minimization principle
to all information regardless of whether its an identifier.

Jonathan Matkowsky,

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 12:25 PM, Volker Greimann <vgreimann at key-systems.net>
wrote:

> Even if there if no PII in thin data (and I am leaning to that direction
> myself), if there really a need for all these fields to be public for the
> purpose of the operationality of the internet? I am thinking of the
> created, updated and expiration dates in particular since those are the
> ones leading to the most abusive use.
>
> Am 31.05.2017 um 19:22 schrieb jonathan matkowsky:
>
> Thin Whois data doesn't have PII - We were saying that for registration
> DETAILS that can be queried from the existence of a domain name (which are
> NOT in thin Whois data), the way to deal with that is informed consent. The
> thin Whois data is cross-referenced against the domain name that was
> created. The domain itself exists. We very much can say that there is no
> PII in thin Whois data for domain names. DNS queries and SOA records are
> not part of this working group. And the fact you can use the Whois PROTOCOL
> to query RIRs also has nothing whatsoever to do with the Whois DATABASE,
> especially thin Whois. We can still be privacy champions without turning
> everything into a privacy concern, especially where none exists. The
> privacy issues to the extent they do exist, are not within the subject
> matter at issue. And therefore, there is simply no proportionality
> principle that need be applied here.
>
>
> On Wed, 31 May 2017 at 20:10 Michael Peddemors <michael at linuxmagic.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 17-05-31 10:07 AM, allison nixon wrote:
>> > the rest of it can't be. You can't put a DNS query behind a EULA. We
>> > can't pretend there are restrictions on this data.
>> >
>>
>> We aren't discussing DNS or any other places that data is available as
>> part of this working group. Only the informed consent of data held in
>> whois thin data.
>>
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