[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] URGENT: babypool GDPR Question

Wed Jun 14 16:14:45 UTC 2017

You are required to publish that information (unless privacy protected) in the current contract. That was present in the agreement you signed before becoming a registrar. You knew it, you signed it, and here we are. Those are the facts and they are not in dispute. 

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John Bambenek

> On Jun 14, 2017, at 12:10, Volker Greimann <vgreimann at key-systems.net> wrote:
> 
> Ok, just one: There are no third party beneficiaries to those agreements so unless you are a party to them, you cannot derive any rights from them.
> 
> Volker
> 
> 
>> Am 14.06.2017 um 18:07 schrieb John Bambenek:
>> Point in fact, I do. By virtue of the contract YOU signed becoming a registrar and registry and the virtue of the contract your customers signed with you. What we are debating here is your desire to change those contracts after the fact to comply with legal restrictions that do mot exist because of business decisions you do not wish to consider.
>> 
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>> John Bambenek
>> 
>>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 11:47, Volker Greimann <vgreimann at key-systems.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sorry, but you do not have a right to someone elses information unless that someone else lets you have it. You may want to have that information, feel entitled to it and that information may be beneficial to you, but you do not have a legally enforceable right to it.
>>> 
>>> And now, can we get back to the approved topics of the week? I believe this discussion is not on that list.
>>> 
>>> Volker
>>> 
>>>> Am 14.06.2017 um 17:40 schrieb John Bambenek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg:
>>>> "When a registrant register a domain name their personal details should only be disclosed to third parties for a purpose to which such registrant agrees to prior to the disclosure. And I think you will agree that having your details transmitted to every marketing company out there wouldn’t qualify as a legitimate purpose"
>>>> 
>>>> No, we don't agree. Because I have a right to information that will help me verify who is trying to communicate with me. If you have a problem with your information being public and used for any purpose whatsoever, the use whois privacy / proxy registration (which should be free). Use a role-based email.
>>>> 
>>>> This. Is. A. Solved. Problem.
>>>> 
>>>> Your choice should be this. Enable (free) privacy protection on your domain or your info can be used by anyone for any reason. Literally exactly like twitter and facebook which has a whole lot more privacy sensitive info. The only thing that needs to be done is registrars telling users what this means. And we're happy to write that for you.
>>>> 
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>>>> John Bambenek
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 11:05, Luc SEUFER <lseufer at dclgroup.eu> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> When a registrant register a domain name their personal details should only be disclosed to third parties for a purpose to which such registrant agrees to prior to the disclosure. And I think you will agree that having your details transmitted to every marketing company out there wouldn’t qualify as a legitimate purpose
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> Bei weiteren Fragen stehen wir Ihnen gerne zur Verfügung.
> 
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
> 
> Volker A. Greimann
> - Rechtsabteilung -
> 
> Key-Systems GmbH
> Im Oberen Werk 1
> 66386 St. Ingbert
> Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
> Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
> Email: vgreimann at key-systems.net
> 
> Web: www.key-systems.net / www.RRPproxy.net
> www.domaindiscount24.com / www.BrandShelter.com
> 
> Folgen Sie uns bei Twitter oder werden Sie unser Fan bei Facebook:
> www.facebook.com/KeySystems
> www.twitter.com/key_systems
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> Geschäftsführer: Alexander Siffrin
> Handelsregister Nr.: HR B 18835 - Saarbruecken
> Umsatzsteuer ID.: DE211006534
> 
> Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
> www.keydrive.lu
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> Der Inhalt dieser Nachricht ist vertraulich und nur für den angegebenen Empfänger bestimmt. Jede Form der Kenntnisgabe, Veröffentlichung oder Weitergabe an Dritte durch den Empfänger ist unzulässig. Sollte diese Nachricht nicht für Sie bestimmt sein, so bitten wir Sie, sich mit uns per E-Mail oder telefonisch in Verbindung zu setzen.
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> Should you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Volker A. Greimann
> - legal department -
> 
> Key-Systems GmbH
> Im Oberen Werk 1
> 66386 St. Ingbert
> Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
> Fax.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 851
> Email: vgreimann at key-systems.net
> 
> Web: www.key-systems.net / www.RRPproxy.net
> www.domaindiscount24.com / www.BrandShelter.com
> 
> Follow us on Twitter or join our fan community on Facebook and stay updated:
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> www.twitter.com/key_systems
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> CEO: Alexander Siffrin
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> V.A.T. ID.: DE211006534
> 
> Member of the KEYDRIVE GROUP
> www.keydrive.lu
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