[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Fwd: SAC097 SSAC Advisory Regarding the Centralized Zone Data Service (CZDS) and Registry Operator Monthly Activity Reports

Tue Jun 20 23:17:54 UTC 2017

+1 big time!

On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 at 4:34 PM Gomes, Chuck via gnso-rds-pdp-wg <
gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org> wrote:

> Thanks you very much Rod for the constructive words.
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> Chuck
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> *From:* gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org [mailto:
> gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Rod Rasmussen
> *Sent:* Monday, June 19, 2017 1:10 AM
> *To:* John Bambenek <jcb at bambenekconsulting.com>
> *Cc:* gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Fwd: SAC097 SSAC Advisory
> Regarding the Centralized Zone Data Service (CZDS) and Registry Operator
> Monthly Activity Reports
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> Greg Aaron, Jim Galvin, and I were all members of this SSAC work party and
> would be happy to elaborate further on any questions folks in this group
> have on this report.   Note that we were looking at the issues we raised on
> this report as much more a comment on the implementation of the original
> policy work and where things were falling short rather than as something
> with any “new” policy implications.
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> As one of the co-chairs of the GNSO WP that proposed the CZDS (and
> actually probably the guy you can blame for kicking off the whole thing to
> begin with, for good or ill) it was very gratifying to see totally newly
> crafted policy based on scaling existing practices to the new realities of
> the gTLD expansion embodied in a well-defined and operational system that
> made existing practices and policy a lot more understandable, scalable, and
> efficient come into being.  We have had some growing pains, but all-in-all,
> the system that was implemented reflects most of the ideas we put forward
> and does a pretty darn good job.  Yes, there are areas for improvement
> which this advisory gets into, but the core system itself is delivering
> exactly what was intended.
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> The fact that we got this done remains one of my core inspirations in the
> entire ICANN process.  I find it invigorating that ICANN provides a forum
> where someone in the community with a "good idea” on policy can bring it
> forward, explain it to others to get them on board, and then with work with
> those folks to create a movement, a PDP, and eventually an actual policy to
> see that idea come to fruition for the global Internet.  Without a dime
> spent on lobbying or other “traditional” policy movers to boot mind you.
> Where else in the world can you find that?  Pretty darn cool, I say!
> That’s why I keep coming to these meetings, spending countless hours on
> calls, and volunteering in many forums to try to get thing “done right”
> despite what seems like intractable odds at times.
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> I can only hope that at the end of the day, we end up putting forward a
> policy proposal along similar lines that we can all be proud of pointing to
> in the future saying, “yeah, I helped put that together” where all parties
> are served well in the end.  I share these thoughts in the hopes of getting
> our work party a bit more aligned on the end goal here that we’ve been
> chartered with.  Seems we have been having discussions of “camps”, “sides”,
> and far too many posts where folks are taking shots at each others' ideas
> or working towards a specifically narrow agenda.  I would like us all to
> remember that we’re charged with creating a system for providing
> registration information that protects the interests of ALL stakeholders in
> making the Internet work, from those who actually register domains to those
> who provide the services to make that happen, to those who ensure the
> system isn’t abused to the detriment of all which will, in the end,
> seriously jeopardize the future of that system if it isn’t held to account
> properly.
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> Best wishes to all this week - I look forward to seeing many of you in JNB
> next week!
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> Cheers,
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> Rod
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> On Jun 18, 2017, at 5:24 PM, John Bambenek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg <
> gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org> wrote:
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> I would agree bulk access (i.e. Entire zone file) should be treated
> different than ad hoc queries.
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> John Bambenek
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> On Jun 18, 2017, at 19:12, Stephanie Perrin <
> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
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> It is an interesting report.  I note that access can be denied if an
> applicant fails to meet credential requirements.  I did not see a sample
> request/agreement/credential, but that would be interesting for our
> purposes...later on in our process.
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> Stephanie Perrin
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> On 2017-06-18 19:27, Carlton Samuels wrote:
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> You might find this SSAC Advisory of interest, if only as a lesson
> demonstrqtingto an arrangement where users are admitted to accessing of
> [zone] file data.
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> Coming now on 18 years, ICANN has obliged gTLD registries to provide for
> free, copies of their zone files to interested parties. This posture is
> predicated on the acceptance that "*...**the DNS is public
> infrastructure, ICANN accredits gTLD registry operators, and zone files are
> essential for a variety of legitimate purposes that are in the public
> interest." *
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> Referencing recent discussions on the list, you might also wish to check
> out the zone file dataset.
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> In the SSAC's view, *'**Policy and process difficulties prevent
> subscribers from gaining and then maintaining reliable access to zone
> files.'*  They then handily outlined these policy and process differences
> as well as clearly state their recommendations for remediation.
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> -Carlton
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> This Report is attached and can also be found on the SSAC Reports
> <https://www.icann.org/groups/ssac/documents> webpage.
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