[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Principle on Proportionality for "Thin Data"access

John Horton john.horton at legitscript.com
Tue May 30 20:00:11 UTC 2017


I was going to reply to Natalie's email as well, but Paul's comments
capture my thoughts, so: *+1. *

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On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Paul Keating <paul at law.es> wrote:

> Natalie,
>
> Thank you for the email.  Im copying the list because i see others have
> replied to your comment.
>
> I strenuously object to the concept.  We are discussing THIN DATA ONLY
> HERE.  Unless someone can explain to me why any of this data set has
> privacy concerns this is a non-issue.  I would certainly appreciate someone
> explaining what, if any, privacy issues are perceived to be at issue here.
>
> Moreover, while you suggest that the idea escapes the need to declare a
> purpose, it does nothing but reinforce a subjective criteria based system
> in which the declared purpose is used to somehow limit the data being
> retrieved.
>
> If i am missing something please let me know.
>
> Paul
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 30 May 2017, at 21:08, nathalie coupet via gnso-rds-pdp-wg <
> gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> In the context of thin data, in view of the opposition of some to allow
> unauthenticated access to all the thin data, the principle of
> proportionality serves as an over-arching principle at this particular
> phase in our work in order to protect data from abuse while not restricting
> access.
> Thin data must be proportionate to the query, be useful for that
> particular query. All and any other thin data foreign to this query should
> not be shared. This principle potentially avoids having to resort to
> 'legitimate purposes' which cannot be verified for unauthenticated access.
>
>
>
> Nathalie
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 2:44 PM, "Gomes, Chuck via gnso-rds-pdp-wg" <
> gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org> wrote:
>
>
> Because Nathalie was the originator and was unable to speak on the call, I
> encourage her to describe the nature of the issue on this thread.
>
> Chuck
>
> *From:* gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-
> bounces at icann.org <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *Paul
> Keating
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 30, 2017 2:17 PM
> *To:* Lisa Phifer <lisa at corecom.com>; RDS PDP WG <
> gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Principle on Proportionality
> for "Thin Data"access
>
> Im sorry to have missed the call but had a client engagement.
>
> Can someone briefly describe the nature of the issue?
>
> Thanks
> Paul
>
> *From: *<gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Lisa Phifer <
> lisa at corecom.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 7:52 PM
> *To: *RDS PDP WG <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
> *Subject: *[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Principle on Proportionality for "Thin
> Data"access
>
>
> All, per today's call action item:
>
>
>
> *Action Item: Nathalie Coupet and any other WG members who wish to do so
> to propose to the WG list a new principle on proportionality for "thin
> data." All WG members to comment on that proposed principle in advance of
> next call. *we are starting a new thread here which anyone may reply to
> if they wish to propose (or respond to) a new principle on proportionality
> for "thin data" access.
>
> Best, Lisa
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