[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] FW: IMPORTANT

theo geurts gtheo at xs4all.nl
Fri Oct 13 18:28:42 UTC 2017



https://www.privacytrust.com/guidance/gdpr-vs-eprivacy-regulation.html

Eprivacy seems to be delayed though
https://iapp.org/news/a/libe-eprivacy-vote-delayed-juri-itre-and-edps-weigh-in/

Theo


On 13-10-2017 20:22, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
>
> I believe the Art 29 group has commented on this matter, please check 
> their website for the relevant documents, as I don't believe we have 
> included them in our document respository.
>
> Stephanie Perrin
>
>
> On 2017-10-13 14:16, Ayden Férdeline wrote:
>> Hi Jonathan,
>>
>>> the Privacy Directive, as I understand it is not superseded by GDPR
>>
>> I presume you are referring to the European Union's e-Privacy 
>> Directive (2002/58/EC). If so, from what I understand it is currently 
>> being updated so to be consistent with the GDPR. As of last month the 
>> proposed revisions were with the Council of the European Union. I'm 
>> not sure what movement there has been since then.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Ayden Férdeline
>> linkedin.com/in/ferdeline <http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline>
>>
>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] FW: IMPORTANT
>>> Local Time: 13 October 2017 1:51 PM
>>> UTC Time: 13 October 2017 12:51
>>> From: jonathan.matkowsky at riskiq.net
>>> To: Chuck <consult at cgomes.com>, gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org
>>>
>>> Chuck, I don’t understand how anyone can share government 
>>> perspective, and not represent a group in doing so.
>>>
>>> I wanted to know whether leadership team has decided to conduct a 
>>> DPIA, and if so, whether you are using the UK’s guide. I would think 
>>> while it makes sense to be looking at the purposes of collection, 
>>> what is primary and secondary cannot be the focus because that 
>>> presupposes knowing who the controller is. We have not yet decided 
>>> that as a working group. The memo did not necessarily take into 
>>> account the role of offering accreditation services and ICANN’s mission.
>>>
>>> But it appears whether it’s primary or secondary doesn’t matter for 
>>> purposes of defining purposes of collecting each data element.
>>>
>>> We are not defining the purposes of collecting Whois data but the 
>>> data elements of the next generation of Whois. That’s what I meant 
>>> the other day regarding RDS.
>>>
>>> To do that, we are not limited to the data elements that currently 
>>> exist as when we go through this exercise to fulfill ICANN’s mission 
>>> from ICANN’s perspective including all those involved in 
>>> cybersecurity, or to offer accredited registration services. The 
>>> primary purpose of accredited services is to fulfill the mission, 
>>> and to provide that staple of a service to those that register names 
>>> with an accredited registrar. It seems we need to carefully consider 
>>> not only Spec 3 to the 2013 RAA but also Paragraph 14 to the 2017 
>>> global amendment to the registry agreement which says unique DNS 
>>> records may be supportable in the RDS if RDAP supports it. We 
>>> therefore need to know what RDAP can support, and at the very least 
>>> need to consider all elements from RFC 7485. This is not a simple 
>>> exercise, and will take **significant** time.
>>>
>>> As we undertake this, we must know from WS law firm what role the 
>>> public directory service plays in the Privacy Directive, as I 
>>> understand it is not superseded by GDPR, and Whois is a public 
>>> directory. This is critical analysis we are possibly missing. Can 
>>> you ask them to address this ASAP please?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 11:35 AM Chuck <consult at cgomes.com 
>>> <mailto:consult at cgomes.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     We have 34 volunteers at present; it would help a lot if we
>>>     could get a lot more so that teams will not have to cover more
>>>     than one of the nine purposes.
>>>
>>>
>>>     Thanks much to the 34 of you who have volunteered.  I hope many
>>>     more will complete the poll and volunteer in the remaining 6 or
>>>     so hours of the poll.
>>>
>>>
>>>     We are particularly low for the government perspective. 
>>>     Remember, team members are not being asked to represent any
>>>     group but rather to share their understanding of the perspective.
>>>
>>>
>>>     Chuck
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     *From:* gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
>>>     <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>
>>>     [mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org
>>>     <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *Lisa
>>>     Phifer
>>>     *Sent:* Tuesday, October 10, 2017 10:19 AM
>>>     *To:* gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
>>>     *Subject:* [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] IMPORTANT: Invitation for Poll from
>>>     10 October Meeting
>>>     *Importance:* High
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     Dear all,
>>>
>>>
>>>     In follow-up to this week’s WG meeting, *all RDS PDP WG Members*
>>>     are encouraged to participate in the following poll:
>>>
>>>
>>>     https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5LXJRF3
>>>
>>>
>>>     Responses should be submitted through the above URL. For offline
>>>     reference, a PDF of poll questions can also be found at:
>>>
>>>
>>>     https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/66086772/Poll-from-10OctoberCall.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>>     *This poll will close at COB Wednesday 11 October.  Expressions
>>>     of interest gathered through this poll will be used form
>>>     drafting teams.*
>>>
>>>
>>>     Please note that you _must be a WG Member_ to participate in
>>>     polls. If you are a WG Observer wishing to participate in polls,
>>>     you must first contact gnso-secs at icann.org
>>>     <mailto:gnso-secs at icann.org> to upgrade to WG Member.
>>>
>>>
>>>     Regards,
>>>
>>>     Lisa
>>>
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>>> -- 
>>> Jonathan Matkowsky
>>>
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